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Simutrans-Extended closed bug reports / Teleporting trains
Teleporting still occurs in r3851. See save:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JQPWCC4T

One convoy that I've seen teleporting a lot is (65) BR Cl**** 165 "Network Turbo" DMU (nice to be able to ctrl-c this, btw ;-)), running the Bridgewater - Kinross IC service. Note that this train is not always teleporting, but it appears to be more likely at some stations (Cardiff, Reading). I had suspected this might be a pakBritain issue, and to be related to this: http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=3376.0, but reading it again, I'm not so sure.
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Simutrans-Extended closed bug reports / Teleporting trains
James, thanks for testing. I know these crashed are hard to debug, since, well, they are random. Anyway, no problem, we'll see how 9.0 holds up :)

As to the teleporting trains: AEO is right. The consist will move forward a few tiles (depending on consist length, I'd say about half it's own length). This can be particularly annoying when the departing train p****es a red signal this way, or when it starts blocking the path of an incoming train.

By the way: this issue is also present in Standard (occurs frequently in my old game Standard 102.2/pakBritain).

Mod note: split from this thread in the Experimental board, as this problem is reproducible in Standard.
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Simutrans-Extended development / Random crashes: 8.2
In my current game (exp 8.2, britain standard), I do get seemingly random crashes every now and then :(
I do use a very large map, but my system is very new and well-equiped.

James, you may find my game interesting to look at:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=107ZX4MN

I must say playing it has been very enjoyable :) my 3 major annoyances during playing were:
1) city growth too fast
2) field sprawl (this is fixed now, right?)
3) Teleporting trains when leaving a station. Why is this happening? I think it may be pakbritain-specific.

All in all, it is still very enjoyable and the crashes are not a blocker. Thanks for making this game so great!
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Pak128.Britain-Ex closed bug reports / Re: Tram track max weight bug.
I just did a quick test with a light steam loco (lscw terrier, 28t) and found that it does work. My apologies; I used Plateway for part of the track. It does not work with ordinary tram tracks, though (why is this?).

One unrelated issue: when testing this, I tried to make a screenshot. This worked, but the resulting .bmp was all stretched out weirdly. Does anybody else have this problem? Also, empty .png files are created when making a screenshot, though I suspect this is also happening in standard.
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Simutrans-Extended development / Re: [Bug] Weird cities with map creation
You must edit the file "cityrules.tab" in the directory of pak128. There is a value for renovation_percentage = 12, but for experimental, this is too low. Personally, I recommend to put 50 there, but to get the same city density you get in standard, use something like 70. Good luck and enjoy playing!
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[NL]Nederlands (Dutch) / Re: vraag over choose platform
Let bij een Choose-signal voor een station ook op dat treinen die daar niet stoppen (bijvoorbeeld goederentreinen) hun route tot hun volgende station/waypoint zullen reserveren. Als dat waypoint/station ver weg is kan dit verschrikkelijke vertragingen oplopen. Als zo'n trein een choose-signal p****eert moet je in hun schedule dus kort daarachter een waypoint inleggen. Dit heb ik zelf altijd een erg vervelend verhaal gevonden en daarom gebruik ik ook bijna nooit meer choose-signals.
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Simutrans-Extended development / Re: Sprawl
Hi James,

Just tried 8.2 and the fields bug is still present. I though prissi said he had fixed it in the other thread, or has he not? I'd love to have this bug fixed if possible, because all those fields annoy me to no end. :(

thanks!
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Simutrans-Extended development / Re: Sprawl
James, many thanks for you extensive answer! I'll keep on trying some more settings and let you know whether I come across any problems.
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Simutrans-Extended development / Re: Sprawl
I get no farms, actually, I think I only got power stations, coal mines and oil fields.
In 7.3 this did not occur.

Quote from: Knightly – on
Do you mean, you do not have farms, or you have farms without fields? For the former case, you will have to ask James; for the second case, maybe you can try downloading the latest version of Pak128.Britain at the nightly page, as some time ago, newly generated paksets do not have fields -- but it's fixed now.


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Simutrans-Extended development / Re: Sprawl
Thanks for clearing this up, Knightly. Meanwhile, I have done some testing with farm fields, but for some reason, now no single setup I have tried actually generates any farms! I only get power stations & oil fields etc. What could be the cause of that?
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Simutrans-Extended development / Re: Sprawl
Hi James,

Thanks for your reply. I'm using 8.1 now, and play with timeline off atm, so that power station bug should have no effect anyway. I'd say the town growth is a combination: growth is much faster than in 7.3 in terms of population increase, and this growth is manifesting in low-density buildings. This is not necessarily bad, but now, it's just too fast.

Regarding low-density sprawl in map generation, I have found that selecting "hilly landscape" reduces it, because the lack of flat space forces the building of higher-density housing.

I tried your tip and changed the renovation percentage. Changing it from 12 to 33 changed little, but upping it to the 75 that Banksie_82 used, the cities look just like they did in 7.3 again. I wonder why standard and experimental have such different results? Does the renovation percentage also influence new houses built during game time? I'll play with this setting for a while and let you know what it does to population growth etc.

Meanwhile, is there anything I can do about the field sprawl issue? All farms, even ones not served by my transport company, grow out of control and take up space I wanted to use for railway lines! Stupid farmers, the nerve! :P Anyway, this is very annoying and I'd love a fix for this.



Quote from: jamespetts – on
Brambo,

thank you for your feedback. Can you be a little more specific? I.e., is your problem sprawl in the conventional sense of large areas of low-density development in towns, or is it the size of towns per se, or is the rate at which towns grow (at any density), or some combination of the above? In what era are you playing?

One thing that might make a difference to your issue in respect of towns (which will not affect industries) is the "rennovation_percentage" setting in cityrules.tab. The next version of Pak128.Britain-Ex (yet to be released) will use the value 33 instead of 12, which is more suitable for 8.0. I suggest that you change this setting in your cityrules.tab file - this will affect only new games created after the change, however.

As to industries, there was a bug in Simutrans-Experimental 8.0 that would cause excess industries to be generated before any power stations become available, but that was fixed in 8.1. Are you using 8.1?
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Simutrans-Extended development / Sprawl
Since 8.0, cities, factories and fields have started to grow out of control, at least when compared to previous versions. I saw this was discussed elsewhere already, but I didn't quite understand whether this is WaD or a bug/balancing problem. I also understand that it has something to do with pak128.Britain (I use 1.07 standard) lacking high-density buildings for some years, but this can't be the whole story. James, maybe you could enlighten me? :)

Personally, I think growth is way too fast now, and cities after map generation are too spread out. IMHO, this is the one single flaw that makes 8.1 not fun to play.

Thanks!
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Simutrans-Extended closed bug reports / Re: Mysterious steel mill bug with pak128.Britain/Experimental
Hi,

Just came across the same(?) bug: a Bakery, which had existed from the beginning and processed goods without problems, suddenly became a black hole for flour. I'm still playing exp 7.3 (8 is just not playable right now) with pak128.Britain 1.07 standard.

I have an older save where it is still working (game year 1963). Here is the save from 3 years later, where it isn't (the bakery is in Ipswich):

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N0RTQMSP

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Simutrans-Extended development / hi
Hi everybody!

I'm new here, so I though I'd best introduce myself a bit. My name is Bram, I live in The Netherlands, and I after getting into Simutrans a few months ago, I have become a big fan. Then, I tried experimental, and I must say that it is even better, especially with the routing features! Great job to everybody who worked on it, and I guess especially James!

Now, since this is the experimental forum, I guess I should give some feedback too. I've just downloaded 8.0, so far it's working. I spotted a small bug in the "new map" window: it says "Nrumber of cities". ;)

Something I also noticed is that cars do not overtake each other. This leads to serious congestion on roads. I thought road vehicles should overtake? Or is that only in standard? Or for buses/trucks only? ???

Anyway, I suppose I'll have more to report later :) Maybe there is something else I could help with. I can program, but this weird C-thing code hurts my Java-based eyes. :P Perhaps the Dutch translation needs updating? Or is that actively maintained already?


Greetings!
Bram