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Title: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: IgorEliezer on January 16, 2009, 12:41:45 am
You may not believe me.

Since I discovered Simutrans, I have saved the very first Simutrans version I had played ever:

Version 0.80.0 from 03-feb-2002.

Unfortunately, I don't have any savegame from that time. :'(

Screenshot as proof  ;D

EDIT:

The mythical message "Die Brücke ist nicht frei!" could not lack.


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Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: VS on January 16, 2009, 11:19:04 am
Good. We also have somewhere an archive of old versions collected from players... archive.simutrans.com

And after seeing this, i searched a bit for the famous download servers which keep game versions for ever, if they are years old... I got versions 81 and 79.
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: Combuijs on January 16, 2009, 11:40:02 am
I still have versions

0.81.1
0.81.19
0.81.31
0.82.15

on my computer. If somebody is interested...  :o
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: emaxectranspoorte on January 16, 2009, 12:07:56 pm
I am. :)

If possible... :-\
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: vilvoh on January 16, 2009, 12:43:28 pm
One doubt, old releases seem to be Windows only..when was released the first version for Linux?
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: VS on January 16, 2009, 12:57:33 pm
We mostly use windows so it makes sense that the old versions gathered from players are for windows.

There was a p****word for the site on the old forum...
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: vilvoh on January 16, 2009, 01:08:21 pm
Are you refering to archive.simutrans.com? it's public...I've just downloaded 0.81
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: Spike on January 16, 2009, 04:12:23 pm
One doubt, old releases seem to be Windows only..when was released the first version for Linux?

Actually Linux was first. Also the very early versions from 0.50 up didn't work well with Windows, but could be run in DOS. Not quite sure when real windows support was added.

Playable versions were 0.78 and later, I think ... older are just curiosity items.
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: VS on January 16, 2009, 04:28:34 pm
Ahhhh, except that with these curiosity items you managed to get helplessly hooked so many people that the project outlived almost everything :)
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: Egoooo on March 22, 2009, 08:53:23 pm
I still have versions

0.81.1
0.81.19
0.81.31
0.82.15

on my computer. If somebody is interested...  :o

Hi!

I am very interested in these versions! These versions are not in archive.simutrans.com
Can you upload them somewhere? Or can I give you my mail address?

Do your versions include also the pak set?

Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: Tomas on March 22, 2009, 09:29:38 pm
I have version 0.78.7exp (http://dl.simutrans.cz/simdewin.zip) (June 2001). Nostalgia...
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: hanged94 on March 23, 2009, 01:18:38 pm
Lets put them in a Simutrans Museum!!!!
hahas! :)
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: micslu on March 23, 2009, 08:34:15 pm
Great!
These days almost every country has Transportation museum, even regional ones.

   Father: Son, see this: when I was your age, there were no monorails in Simutrans, not even underground view.
   Son: Wow, how could you manage transportation without them?
 :D
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: robofish on March 25, 2009, 10:55:46 pm
whaaa archive.simutrans.com is gone :S
could you upload your version Igor?

BTW "Die Brücke ist nicht frei!" means "The bridge is not cleared!"
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: Lmallet on March 26, 2009, 01:19:54 am
I have version 0.78.7exp (http://dl.simutrans.cz/simdewin.zip) (June 2001). Nostalgia...
Hehehe, I downloaded 0.78.7 and copied the music folder over :)  Times sure have changed since!
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: bbc100 on April 29, 2009, 04:57:00 am
Holy ****!!!  I could get my dad to let up date a website that he hasn't updated it ****ing ages!!!
here is the website.

[red]**removed link -Isaac**[/red]

I hope you guy's support me about it!!!
Also got no server for now but we have one that not pugged in right now!!!
(dont know if it works!!!)

I can get you in if you PM me!!!
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: sojo on April 29, 2009, 06:13:03 am
Holy ****!!!  I could get my dad to let up date a website that he hasn't updated it ****ing ages!!!
here is the website.

[red]**removed link -Igor was here too**[/red]

I hope you guy's support me about it!!!
Also got no server for now but we have one that not pugged in right now!!!
(dont know if it works!!!)

I can get you in if you PM me!!!

   
What has that to do with Simutrans?
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: Isaac Eiland-Hall on April 29, 2009, 06:32:30 am
First, this would go into General Discussion. Second, I'd prefer not to have to fix your posts, so I'm locking this topic for now, until you are around long enough and get to know how we operate here.

I welcome you to stay here -- but please try to take care to see how everyone posts here. You are currently causing us extra work in the way you post. I hope you do not become discouraged, but understand well enough what I'm trying to tell you. Your enthusiasm is welcome; but please take more care when you post. It is okay to make some mistakes, but you are managing to make a lot. :-)
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: IgorEliezer on May 18, 2009, 12:47:55 pm
* Igor magically waves his hands and unlocks the thread. *

Free! - Wheeeeeeeeee!
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: bbc100 on May 24, 2009, 07:00:23 am
* Igor magically waves his hands and unlocks the thread. *

Free! - Wheeeeeeeeee!
Very funny!!!
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: Matthi205 on June 19, 2009, 02:48:09 am
How about seeing what has been changed since 50.0?I have Debian Linux,but not win Xp or win7(which are,as win1.x,win2.x,win3.x,win95,win98,winNT and win 2000/ME,based on DOS)
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: IgorEliezer on June 19, 2009, 03:23:45 am
We have a "Simutrans Development and History" page in our site:

http://www.simutrans.com/development.htm

Maybe, you are speaking of this page.
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: Matthi205 on June 19, 2009, 07:16:25 am
not exactly.I mean gameplay,and some other things.
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: VS on June 19, 2009, 07:35:24 am
0.50...? That list would be longer than I can imagine. With the program is distributed file history.txt, which has amazing 340kB of history (or 10+ years) in it. Try that one :)
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: Matthi205 on June 19, 2009, 10:49:56 am
I really mean how the feeling of playing the game changed.
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: VS on June 19, 2009, 11:18:03 am
That's a bit impossible since I doubt anyone who was around by .50 is still around...

Perhaps it is simpler to sum up what stayed the same:
Isometric world
Vehicles transport things
Destinations
Station construction tile by tile
Cities with houses
???
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: prissi on June 19, 2009, 11:52:23 am
0.5 was not really palyable, at least in the dos version. The first playable one are 0.78 or so, if memory serves me right. Those had 8Bit graphics, no timeline and schedules once created stayed forever ... There was already sound and so on. The gameplay was only extended towards more modes of transports (trams, monorails, airplanes, ... ) with line management, chosse signals, some limitation of factories and so one. But basically, the gameplys was not too different from today.
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: Matthi205 on June 20, 2009, 07:30:48 am
@VS:What about Hajo?

@prissi:I will try to run it in VirtualBox FreeDos(I don't have DOS),VirtualBox Ubuntu and in winvista.If it does not run,we will get it running. ;)
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: VS on June 20, 2009, 09:24:16 am
Yes, but somehow I can't see him (or any of the other founding fathers) coming once a week and writing a little book about history of Simutrans :) Of course, if it happened, it would be great.
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: Matthi205 on June 20, 2009, 10:24:50 am
He is mainly writing in the german forums and at the subforum here.
Title: Re: Look at what I found in my PC... Simutrans 0.80.0 still lives
Post by: Spike on June 22, 2009, 11:48:33 am
0.5 was not really playable, at least in the dos version. The first playable one are 0.78 or so, if memory serves me right.

That's right. I had problems to get the collaborative multitasking working in early DOS and Windows versions. I used and developed under Linux almost exclusively that time.

0.78.x was playable, but had bugs with bridges, most likely a whole lot more bugs that I have forgotten.

The feeling of the game changed very much. The menus, the windows, the controls changed very much since then. It's hard to put it in words. The concepts stayed, but the implementation of the concepts changed much.

About writing down the history; I just don't remember many details anymore. I actualy wanted to write another article like the "years 1997-2001 (http://www.simutrans.de/en/history/index.html)", about "2001-2005" but realized that I have forgotten most of it. And then I took a long break from Simutrans development, 2 years or more.