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Community => Simutrans Help Center => Topic started by: The Hood on February 23, 2009, 10:52:56 pm

Title: Making Signals
Post by: The Hood on February 23, 2009, 10:52:56 pm
I'm trying to make a pakset of signals.  Can anyone tell me what all the different entries in the dat file mean (I've looked on pak64 SVN and can't make much sense of what the dat file means!)?

Thanks
Title: Re: Making Signals
Post by: The Hood on February 24, 2009, 08:52:42 am
I've now found Fabio's signal set on the old forum along with sources - I think I can make a bit more sense of those (as I am used to playing pak128!).  Fabio, do you mind if I use your set as a template? (in fact the graphics will also end up looking very similar, as yours are British style, but mine will face the other way!)

One further question - in what situations is the "presignal third phase" used?
Title: Re: Making Signals
Post by: Frank on February 24, 2009, 08:56:43 am
when you can german -> german Wiki (http://simutrans-germany.com/wiki/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=en_SignalsDef) ( en translate not complete )

when you can japanese -> japanese wiki (http://japanese.simutrans.com/index.php?cmd=read&page=%B3%AB%C8%AF%2Fdat%A5%D5%A5%A1%A5%A4%A5%EB%B5%AD%BD%D2%A5%EA%A5%D5%A5%A1%A5%EC%A5%F3%A5%B9%2Froadsign%28%C6%BB%CF%A9%C9%B8%BC%B1%29)



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... One further question - in what situations is the "presignal third phase" used? ...

is from old signal system
Title: Re: Making Signals
Post by: The Hood on February 24, 2009, 09:00:57 am
Awesome, thanks!  I think I can read most of the German anyway.
Title: Re: Making Signals
Post by: Dwachs on February 24, 2009, 08:15:23 pm
Just one quick additional question: Does simutrans ****ume that all signals are drawn for draw-on-right mode? If yes, this information should go on the wiki.

In pak128.japan there are some problems with signals, which imho originate from this implicit ****umption.
Title: Re: Making Signals
Post by: prissi on February 24, 2009, 10:31:50 pm
Signals will be put on other side for drive_left automagically.
Title: Re: Making Signals
Post by: The Hood on February 24, 2009, 10:54:46 pm
Signals will be put on other side for drive_left automagically.

I'm ****uming that's for road signals only and not rail?
Title: Re: Making Signals
Post by: prissi on February 24, 2009, 11:07:01 pm
Rail too, I think.
Title: Re: Making Signals
Post by: The Hood on February 24, 2009, 11:14:32 pm
Not in my version (r2319).
Title: Re: Making Signals
Post by: jamespetts on February 24, 2009, 11:33:51 pm
In past versions that I've used, it seems to have worked for me.
Title: Re: Making Signals
Post by: z9999 on February 25, 2009, 06:26:31 am
What is the problem ?

Signals for track don't change the left-right position.
So, if we make a left side signals, it will be drawn in the front of trains, and right side signals will be behinded by train.
Pak128.japan is the same. We know this.
Title: Re: Making Signals
Post by: Dwachs on February 25, 2009, 08:45:52 am
Signals for track don't change the left-right position.

did not know this.

Could this be solved, if makeobj allows the definition of back/front-images for signals too, as it is for instance implemented for way-objects?