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Development => Patches & Projects => Incorporated Patches and Solved Bug Reports => Topic started by: isidoro on March 09, 2009, 02:59:18 am

Title: Convoy helping icons
Post by: isidoro on March 09, 2009, 02:59:18 am
One of the first thing a newbie faces is: ok, I've done everything as expected.  Why is the locomotive not loading, not moving, etc.

My idea is to have the possibility of placing standard icons on top of vehicles to inform the player about relevant issues regarding that convoy.  Those icons could be hidden/shown by pressing a certain key.  Possible uses:
Title: Re: Convoy helping icons
Post by: Dwachs on March 09, 2009, 06:35:13 am
There could be some new messages added for these cases:
  • Not loading because the station has not enabled that type of goods
  • Not loading because of an overcrowded station

I dont get the meaning of this:
Title: Re: Convoy helping icons
Post by: jamespetts on March 09, 2009, 09:05:21 am
This is an interesting idea, although I'm not sure about using the one for no route, as there's already a message, and a separate icon might look inconsistent and be confusing.

Dwachs, Isidoro's referring to the patch that he wrote for automatic replacement of vehicles.
Title: Re: Convoy helping icons
Post by: VS on March 09, 2009, 09:38:41 am
Yay! (Sues isidoro for IP theft) http://archive.forum.simutrans.com/topic/05731.0/index.html

I would add to the list:
Title: Re: Convoy helping icons
Post by: isidoro on March 09, 2009, 11:38:16 pm
Ooops!  So difficult to be original...

I prefer discreet icons with a transparent background over present messages.  In the style of "Transport giant" ones used for marking loaded vehicles.
Title: Re: Convoy helping icons
Post by: VS on March 10, 2009, 11:55:55 am
Well, I am glad that this is wanted/invented independently, since it means it's either a good idea or an obvious one :)

And the text messages are not really best, but certainly far better than nothing :) Icons (that can be hidden) are what I would imagine as ideal, too - namely because they obscure less.

At that time I did not know a thing about Simutrans code. Now I might try... of course if you want to, I will not protest since you "claimed" it first-
Title: Re: Convoy helping icons
Post by: prissi on March 10, 2009, 04:04:21 pm
Too late ...
Title: Re: Convoy helping icons
Post by: Dwachs on March 10, 2009, 05:04:47 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Convoy helping icons
Post by: isidoro on March 11, 2009, 01:40:36 am
@VS: all yours...

@prissi: "Better late than never"...   :D
Title: Re: Convoy helping icons
Post by: z9999 on March 11, 2009, 07:48:51 am
This new feature is great. I can find a problem before "stucked" message, and playable.  ;) Thank you.


[edit]
One question.
Airplanes don't show Loading (%i->%i%%)! tooltips.
Is that a bug or it is impossible to show ? Thanks.
Title: Re: Convoy helping icons
Post by: prissi on March 11, 2009, 09:43:42 am
Not really impossible, but they have their own virtual display_after. Will look at it.

EDIT: will work, but since the airplane shado images sometimes jumps, so will the tooltip inflight ...
Title: Re: Convoy helping icons
Post by: z9999 on March 12, 2009, 06:41:04 am
Thank you. it is working well in r2381.