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Community => Simutrans Help Center => Topic started by: Erniii on April 15, 2009, 06:06:32 pm

Title: Freight fares - changing them
Post by: Erniii on April 15, 2009, 06:06:32 pm
Hello,

I've been playing simutrans for over a year now and I think it is the best transport simulator ever.

Usually I have built large p****anger networks, but recently I've decided to focus on transporting goods. Unfortunately I see that the freight fares are not realistic at all. So my question is: where can I change the fares so I can make profit from transporting certain goods (eg plastics, steel) and where can I modify the data for add-on industry chains like beverage factory or nuclear power plant?

The whole system of freight fees seems unrealistic. In the real world if a company operates trucks that can carry pallets (I ****ume boxed goods represent pllets in simutrans) they charge the same rate as long as the total weight is below 24T (In Europe al least) for all goods. Same thing with bulk goods, there is no difference for a company whether they transport ore, coal or sand.  There are, of course  examples of goods that are more expensive to transport because they are valuable or fragile, but not the ones available to transport in simutrans.

BTW i use pak64 v102,0 withg few added industry chains

ET
Title: Re: Freight fares - changing them
Post by: Dwachs on April 17, 2009, 07:39:31 am
you can get the sources for pak64 here:

http://simutrans.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/simutrans/pak64/ (http://simutrans.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/simutrans/pak64/)

they need to be compiled with makeobj:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=196471&package_id=254323 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=196471&package_id=254323)

you have to change dat-files, documentation here:

http://simutrans-germany.com/wiki/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=en_dat_Files (http://simutrans-germany.com/wiki/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=en_dat_Files)

good luck ;)

feel free to aks again :)
Title: Re: Freight fares - changing them
Post by: Erniii on April 17, 2009, 04:52:51 pm
Hmm, looks complicated. Isn't there any other way (possibly easier ;) ) to change the freight fares for certain goods in the game? I've tried to look in simuconf.tab and the *.pak files for certain industry chains but was unable to change them

ET
Title: Re: Freight fares - changing them
Post by: colonyan on April 17, 2009, 06:28:13 pm
Once you know how to do it, at least, changing the cost of good is fairly simple.
I believe there is no other alternative currently.
Title: Re: Freight fares - changing them
Post by: Dwachs on April 19, 2009, 03:02:38 pm
Hmm, looks complicated. Isn't there any other way (possibly easier ;) ) to change the freight fares for certain goods in the game? I've tried to look in simuconf.tab and the *.pak files for certain industry chains but was unable to change them

ET

This information is not stored in any tabs-file. You can ofcourse use a hex-editor ;) But changing dats and using makeobj is easier, once you manage to get it work.