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PakSets and Customization => Pak128.Britain => Pak128.Britain Bug Reports => Topic started by: wlindley on May 28, 2010, 02:34:35 pm

Title: 1900 steam vehicle errors
Post by: wlindley on May 28, 2010, 02:34:35 pm
In 1900 there is a ThornycroftSteamMailVan (listed under Buses) but nothing to pull it, is there supposed to be a ThornycroftWagonMail ?

The ThornycroftSteamVanPiece and ThornycroftSteamVanCool trailers are listed under Trucks, and probably should be moved to Trailers.

You can take a HeavyRoadLocomotive, add a trailer or two, and then add one or two teams of horses to the rear, its that intentional?
Title: Re: 1900 steam vehicle errors
Post by: jamespetts on May 29, 2010, 11:06:20 pm
WLindley,

these are issues with Pak128.Britain and are not specific to Simutrans-Experimental. I'll move this topic to the appropriate subforum.

The steam vans, incidentally, are trucks and not trailers because they have built in power sources: trailers are unpowered vehicles. That is why the "mail van" doesn't have anything to pull it: it pulls itself.

As to the adding things to the rear: that is not intentional - that needs to be fixed in Pak128.Britain (Standard as well as Experimental).
Title: Re: 1900 steam vehicle errors
Post by: The Hood on May 31, 2010, 10:43:43 am
The steam vans are self-powered, so they don't need anything to pull them.  I don't think there is a bug therefore?

Re being able to add horses on the back of a road train, I'm not sure why on earth you'd want to do that anyway given it reduces the speed allowed.  I'm not sure I need to ban every possible but completely pointless combination of vehicles using constraints.
Title: Re: 1900 steam vehicle errors
Post by: wlindley on May 31, 2010, 06:44:40 pm
Right.  Not bugs.  Only problem was nut-behind-the-wheel.  :-[
Title: Re: 1900 steam vehicle errors
Post by: VS on May 31, 2010, 06:57:54 pm
If you want to make a vehicle "forward only", use its [prev] constraint for itself or None - not the [next] constraint with all possible followers :D
Title: Re: 1900 steam vehicle errors
Post by: jamespetts on May 31, 2010, 07:14:10 pm
If you want to make a vehicle "forward only", use its [prev] constraint for itself or None - not the [next] constraint with all possible followers :D

Yes, it would be helpful if horses were so encoded that it was not possible to put a cart before them...