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Simutrans Extended => Simutrans-Extended development => Topic started by: waerth on September 15, 2010, 05:43:54 am

Title: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: waerth on September 15, 2010, 05:43:54 am
My system: Win Vista  Basic 1gb Ram and a cpu ;p

Anyway I downloaded all of the things required ****embled them in the same directory. But it refuses to start. I get:

Fatal error: loadsave_t::rdwr_str()
expected "<bool>", got "<i16>4" 

Isn't there some easier thing around than http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=1894.0 ?

Just a:
1) download and install (link here)
2) download and install (link here)
3) download and install (link here)
etc

That is a lot easier than that block of text :)

Thx for the good work btw
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: jamespetts on September 15, 2010, 05:54:02 pm
Wearth,

thank you for the report. This problem is usually cured by deleting settings-experimental.xml in your /My Documents/simutrans folder or equivalent.

As to the installation instructions - the eventual aim is to have fully automated installers for the main platforms, but it's only worthwhile doing that when the thing is working well, and there are still a number of issues to work on in that respect first; but one day!

Do let me know how you get on.
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: waerth on September 16, 2010, 02:54:47 am
Yes!

That seemed to do the trick .........

Never realised settings and save files were saved globally now. Always wondered why they weren't deleted with the rest :)

W
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: waerth on September 16, 2010, 06:12:42 pm
Working as a charm sofar. Using 128 britain exp .6

Many differences with the standard pak britain I noticed.

Only 3 crashes or so sofar :)

W
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: jamespetts on September 16, 2010, 09:30:44 pm
What were you doing when it crashed, and was there an error message?
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: waerth on September 18, 2010, 10:26:54 am
No error message. I have a tendency to be to fast with my trackball. And it crashes on that. Same with "vanilla" 102.2.2 Britain and 128 normal. It is nothing above the normal amount of crashes I have experienced over the many years that I have had Simutrans so I never really take notice!
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: jamespetts on September 18, 2010, 10:34:37 am
Hmm, interesting - I hardly get any crashes, and, when I do, I normally track down and fix what causes them.
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: waerth on September 18, 2010, 11:06:19 am
Ok, my games usually crash once or twice if I play four hours or so. Not on a really annoying level and I save a lot (no autosave). So nothing to complain about really.
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: jamespetts on September 18, 2010, 09:20:54 pm
Hmm - even if it doesn't bother you, it may well bother others. Do you notice that you are doing anything in particular or if anything happens just before the crash?
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: waerth on September 19, 2010, 10:02:14 am
It usually involves me clicking to fast and once or twice to much on the same object that freezes it. It does have a tendency to happen if at that same moment a message pops up or autosave starts up.
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: jamespetts on September 19, 2010, 11:02:31 am
Hmm, interesting: I've never had that. That sounds like a problem that is likely to be equally present in Standard. What system do you use (OS, hardware, etc.)?
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: waerth on September 19, 2010, 11:33:35 am
Toshiba Satelite 100
1 gb Ram
1.73 ghz dual core

Vista Home Basic

I am pretty convinced the problem is the amount of Ram! It kinda kills other software as well when I open to many applications at the same time.

I also like huge maps 1800*1000 approx although nowadays I start with 64*64 and use the "enlarge map" function

No money to buy more Ram though.
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: jamespetts on September 19, 2010, 11:36:24 am
Ahh. That combination does sound as if it will stress your system rather a lot. Strictly, that shouldn't cause crashes, though; but it does suggest that the problem is specific to your setup, rather than general.
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: waerth on September 20, 2010, 01:49:58 pm
It stresses me out a lot too! I know I should at least double the RAM, because of Vista, but no finances at the moment.
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: AvG on September 20, 2010, 03:30:43 pm
Running Exp8.2 for lots of hours (100+) and NO crashes at all.
AvG
Title: Re: Error when starting Simutrans exp 8.2
Post by: jamespetts on September 20, 2010, 09:10:14 pm
That's good to know!