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r2114 - New map window don't use default.sve but current map

simutrans r2114 GDI

I don't know this is a problem or not.

How to reproduce:
1. Start simutrans
2. Click "StartGame" button and start new game
3. Open "options/Load" window and load a saved game
4. Open "options/New map" window

Result:
New map setting are not default.sve setting  but current map setting.

Re: r2114 - New map window don't use default.sve but current map

Reply #1 –
With this behaviour you can easily start a new game with the settings of a saved one. Maybe it's even a feature  :)

Has this behaviour changed with the enlarge map patch? Then I will have a look at it, if it's not the intended behaviour.

Re: r2114 - New map window don't use default.sve but current map

Reply #2 –
This problem don't happen in this case.

1. Start simutrans
2. Click "Load" button and load a saved game
3. Open "options/New map" window

Result:
New map setting is default.sve

Quote from: gerw – on
Has this behaviour changed with the enlarge map patch?

Maybe not. thanks.

Re: r2114 - New map window don't use default.sve but current map

Reply #3 –
In priciple this is a feature, i.e. using the last setting. We can discuss how to make it consistently, because the current inconsistent setting is an error. What setting is preferred? ALsways default.sve or always from current map (and maybe update default.sve accordingly).

Re: r2114 - New map window don't use default.sve but current map

Reply #4 –
I would say:
The setting of the loaded/current map ... so it is easy to understand for the user
I hope you understand my English

Re: r2114 - New map window don't use default.sve but current map

Reply #5 –
I have no preference, but I think current default.sve system has a problem with using multiple pak set.
I think it might be better that each pak set has each default climate settings.
And having "set default" button on window, instead of deleting default.sve might be better.

Re: r2114 - New map window don't use default.sve but current map

Reply #6 –
I would consider the following:

First use settings of the loaded map (on the initial window I would use the default settings).
If the user press the button "load defaults" then the defaults.sve from the pak*/ folder are loaded (if they doesn't exist load the standard defaults.sve)

Is this ok?
 

Re: r2114 - New map window don't use default.sve but current map

Reply #7 –
If we would use loaded/current map setting, defaults.sve is useless.
Defaults.sve sometimes stores wrong settings, and it causes many problems which were reported many times in forum - wrong number of climate, too many numbers of factory, etc.
Beginners don't know what is wrong and how to repair it.

This is the reason that I suggest "reset default" to pak specific default value from text files.