Re: Route Setting Reply #105 – June 04, 2010, 04:53:44 am Quote from: Lmallet – on June 04, 2010, 02:04:24 amThat makes more sense. After all, an unload all button would only really be useful for the last stop on a schedule, and not an intermediary stop.Great ! You got what I mean !and skreyola got what I mean too !what I request is having such "Unload all" button during schedule creation ya likely at the last stopMy ideal thought is like this:Line Management ( Line 1)1. Stop A2. Stop B3. Stop C4. Stop D ( Unload all )emm... on the other handwhether the button of " Loading only" should be addedI have no idea on it... Quote Selected
Re: Route Setting Reply #106 – June 04, 2010, 12:46:22 pm Quote from: dloddick – on June 04, 2010, 04:53:44 amemm... on the other handwhether the button of " Loading only" should be addedI have no idea on it...I am not too sure this has any use. Why would you have a station where people can get on, but not get off? Quote Selected
Re: Route Setting Reply #107 – June 04, 2010, 01:19:24 pm Quote from: Lmallet – on June 04, 2010, 12:46:22 pmI am not too sure this has any use. Why would you have a station where people can get on, but not get off?It's quite common in reality. It's used, for example, at Watford Junction station on the West Coast Main Line, between London and Birmingham/Manchester/Preston/Liverpool/Glasgow. Watford Junction is a station about 30-40 miles North of London, served by slow stopping trains and regional semi-fast trains to London; the latter are medium density services that call at only one or two intermediate stations between Watford and London. Also, however, some expresses to the North call at Watford: on the way out for pick up only, and on the way back for set down only. The idea is that the p****engers from Watford to the North can get a direct fast train, without the fast train being burdened with the large numbers of regional p****engers travelling between London and Watford. Quote Selected
Re: Route Setting Reply #108 – June 04, 2010, 01:28:59 pm Quote from: jamespetts – on June 04, 2010, 01:19:24 pmIt's quite common in reality. It's used, for example, at Watford Junction station on the West Coast Main Line, between London and Birmingham/Manchester/Preston/Liverpool/Glasgow. Watford Junction is a station about 30-40 miles North of London, served by slow stopping trains and regional semi-fast trains to London; the latter are medium density services that call at only one or two intermediate stations between Watford and London. Also, however, some expresses to the North call at Watford: on the way out for pick up only, and on the way back for set down only. The idea is that the p****engers from Watford to the North can get a direct fast train, without the fast train being burdened with the large numbers of regional p****engers travelling between London and Watford. I have to admit I am not familiar with British rail operations. Do they physically prevent p****engers from getting off at these stations? Quote Selected
Re: Route Setting Reply #109 – June 04, 2010, 01:38:46 pm Quote from: Lmallet – on June 04, 2010, 01:28:59 pmI have to admit I am not familiar with British rail operations. Do they physically prevent p****engers from getting off at these stations?I don't think that they stand guard at the doors saying "nobody may leave!", no. But they will not advertise the train from London as stopping at Watford, and, when the ticket inspector comes around, any tickets for Watford will not be accepted as valid on the train, the p****engers having to pay for at least a single to the next stop, which might be as far away as Coventry or even Preston: orders of magnitude more expensive than a ticket to Watford. Quote Selected
Re: Route Setting Reply #110 – June 04, 2010, 01:54:46 pm Quote from: jamespetts – on June 04, 2010, 01:38:46 pmI don't think that they stand guard at the doors saying "nobody may leave!", no. I would not want that job. I have learned something today. Thanks! Quote Selected
Re: Route Setting Reply #111 – June 04, 2010, 02:23:41 pm In the final days of "real" (private) American p****enger trains, there arose a truly Byzantine set of rules, with a myriad timetable footnotes as: "g. Handles p****engers only for St. Louis or beyond or from Albuquerque or beyond; checked baggage only for Kansas City or beyond or from Winslow or beyond, except Sundays" which effectively became a way of driving away, or at least extorting high ticket prices from almost all local travelers. Thank the ICC and over-regulation for helping spell the end of most p****enger service in the USA! Quote Selected
Re: Route Setting Reply #112 – June 04, 2010, 03:36:04 pm In shortthere are different cases of "Unloading all" , "Loading Only" or even "Unloading Only"in reality in different parts of the worldthe questions comes along arewhether the Simutrans engine can operate these featuresand whether the developers would add these features .. Quote Selected
Re: Route Setting Reply #113 – June 04, 2010, 04:44:11 pm Quote from: wlindley – on June 04, 2010, 02:23:41 pmIn the final days of "real" (private) American p****enger trains, there arose a truly Byzantine set of rules, with a myriad timetable footnotes as: "g. Handles p****engers only for St. Louis or beyond or from Albuquerque or beyond; checked baggage only for Kansas City or beyond or from Winslow or beyond, except Sundays" which effectively became a way of driving away, or at least extorting high ticket prices from almost all local travelers. Thank the ICC and over-regulation for helping spell the end of most p****enger service in the USA!Similar techniques are still in use today, albeit usually applies to freight lines now that p****enger service is somewhat rare. Service abandonment usually requires government permission (it is that way in Canada, and I am pretty sure it is the same in the US), however the government usually refuses abandonment as long as a line is profitable or seen as necessary. Railways will resort to minimal maintenance and reducing the number of trains on a line until it becomes so impractical to use, shippers will often simply opt to use trucks instead, and when the abandonment hearing comes, the railways will say the line is a poor performer, which is usually accepted.Quote from: dloddick – on June 04, 2010, 03:36:04 pmthe questions comes along arewhether the Simutrans engine can operate these featuresand whether the developers would add these features ..Well, Prissi mentionned it would be fairly easy to implement (unless I misunderstood his comment). If he thinks it is worth adding the feature, well, only he can answer that, I am sure he already has enough on his plate as it is. James could also see some value for ST-Exp. Edit: and yes, I would want such functionality. Quote Selected Last Edit: June 04, 2010, 05:25:13 pm by Lmallet
Re: Route Setting Reply #114 – June 04, 2010, 04:46:19 pm I would like to see a feature for schedules of making a particular stop "No Load". Quote Selected
Re: Route Setting Reply #115 – June 05, 2010, 05:05:46 am Quote from: skreyola – on June 04, 2010, 04:46:19 pmI would like to see a feature for schedules of making a particular stop "No Load".This sounds great also ! Quote Selected
Re: Route Setting Reply #116 – June 05, 2010, 02:12:42 pm Quote from: dloddick – on June 04, 2010, 03:36:04 pmIn shortthere are different cases of "Unloading all" , "Loading Only" or even "Unloading Only"in reality in different parts of the worldthe questions comes along arewhether the Simutrans engine can operate these featuresand whether the developers would add these features ..These 3 features would be great to have Quote Selected
Re: Route Setting Reply #117 – August 20, 2010, 04:38:51 am I like this feature that one bus goes to a few stops until the last stop where everyone has to get off. I know in my country they will do that on bus interchanges. Quote Selected