Trains not being loaded February 13, 2009, 03:38:30 pm Hi, I've only been playing for a bit, but I haven't really been able to move into trains because for some reason or another coal plants refuse to load my trains or stations with anything. When I connect the coal mine and plant with freight yards they immediately start filling up and occasionally this happens to trigger the stations into working. After a while if the coal plant gets filled the trains wait patiently for the demand to rise again, however even once the plant is totally empty the freight yards work fine, but the stations refuse to work anymore. I know it can work because I've gotten it to work briefly, so I can rule out my track and use of signals being a problem. There's clearly demand because the freight stops work (disabling them doesn't help), so I'm utterly confused.Is this a glitch or did I make a mistake somewhere? Can anyone help? Quote Selected
Re: Trains not being loaded Reply #1 – February 13, 2009, 03:44:29 pm Deliveries will only be made if:1) both stations are goods-enabled (sounds like they are if you get occasional deliveries anyway)2) The receiving station/industry is not full already (sounds like this is more likely the problem). Basically if this is the case, you have too much capacity on the route, so it will wait around a lot. Quote Selected
Re: Trains not being loaded Reply #2 – February 13, 2009, 04:00:49 pm The problem only affects trains and not trucks. At first I got no train deliveries, once I linked it up with trucks not only did the trucks work, but so did the trains. Once the receiving station filled up the trains and trucks stopped moving, like expected. However, once the receiving station used up all it's coal the trucks (actually only one) began making deliveries again, but it still remains almost always empty and the trains have still refused to move (I set their month wait time to 1/256 so now I can see that the track still works, they're just not making any deliveries). Quote Selected
Re: Trains not being loaded Reply #3 – February 13, 2009, 04:25:22 pm Some pak details and screenshots would be useful. Are you sure that the train stations accepted goods before you added the truck stops? Quote Selected
Re: Trains not being loaded Reply #4 – February 13, 2009, 04:27:24 pm QuoteAt first I got no train deliveries, once I linked it up with trucks not only did the trucks work, but so did the trainsYou probably placed a goods halt for that truck, which immediately enables transporting goods to the station involved. That's why the trains reacted at that moment.At the source station (the coal one): is the coal mine producing coal already? Is there free-laying coal in the station? Is the train in the process of being filled?In general: it's good idea to wait for 100% load for goods. Your truck does obviously not do that, your train very probably does. If the train can't find a route, you see an orange or red message near that train. If not there than my guess is that the train is in the process of being filled. It just takes some time before the train is full. Quote Selected
Re: Trains not being loaded Reply #5 – February 13, 2009, 05:24:04 pm I'm not sure how useful a screenshot would be, but I'm on pak 64.I had the train wait for 50% goods, though none were loaded onto it and none were waiting at the station. The coal mine had 379/380 coal (though this briefly drops when the truck visits it) and the station had coal in it before so I know it can accept it (it's a covered station). I've tried adding a coal station thing to it just in case, but it still won't get any goods from the coal plant. Quote Selected
Re: Trains not being loaded Reply #6 – February 13, 2009, 08:10:50 pm Well, a screenshot or a save game might be helpful. As far as I can see it, there is somehow no connection between both train stations. Quote Selected
Re: Trains not being loaded Reply #7 – February 13, 2009, 10:47:46 pm Here's the save file (warning: It's almost 9MB!). It's after the time the trains were working, so right there only the buses are transporting something. There's a place a little further off where I tried connecting another coal mine and plant and that one never worked, though I know the track does.Thanks for all the suggestions so far! Quote Selected
Re: Trains not being loaded Reply #8 – February 14, 2009, 12:29:32 am Yep, cl****ical Simutrans error . (Don't get offended by this remark, everyone playing Simutrans has made this mistake...).You have two separate stations near the Baringham Coal Mine and you have two separate stations near the Mallimouth Coal Power Station.One set of two stations is connected by a truck, the other set of two station is connected by two trains. In Simutrans the coal from the mine to the power station will only take one of the two routes, not both of them. You were unfortunate that it took the truck. Do two things:1) Remove the truck2) Place a coal station next to the Mallimouth Coal Power station where the train arrives.Now there is only one route for the coal and both train stations are enabled for goods transport. That combination will load the train.Some advice:Always build connected stations. You would have fared better if you had placed the truck station next to the train station (in both cases). You will then see there is only one station name, which indicates that it is one station where train and truck both stop. (In your case both the truck and the trains would have loaded coal then)Stations can be enabled for p****engers, mail and goods. In the station info you see in the upper left corner at most 3 very small icons, one for p****engers (two persons), one for mail (envelop), one for goods (some brownish bag or something). Enabling takes place by building platforms, stops or other stations buildings (like the coal station). In the toolbars (special construction tools, railroad tools etc.) you will see those tiny icons again. They indicate what you will enable if you build that particular object.Well, hope this helps! Good luck! (and no, it's not a miserable failure, consider it a learning process with excellent rewards in the end!).(And by the way, 256 cities on a 784x360 map is quite a lot...) Quote Selected
Re: Trains not being loaded Reply #9 – February 14, 2009, 12:44:21 am Originally one of the stations was connected at Baringham, but I was worried that might be the problem so I pushed it back one, though the Mallimouth stations never were connected, which is strange because it managed to work for a while.Anyhow, what about the Hilton coal mine/plant a bit above the other one I have? There the only way to transport coal is the train network I have and it's not doing anything.Thanks for all the help so far. Quote Selected
Re: Trains not being loaded Reply #10 – February 14, 2009, 09:53:13 am The stations you have used do not automatically enable transportion of coal. In this case, build a coal station (to be found in the special constrution tools) adjacent to Hilton Coal Mine Station and Hilton Coal Power Station Station [sic]. Then suddenly the trains will do what you want Quote Selected
Re: Trains not being loaded Reply #11 – February 15, 2009, 02:35:02 am Aha! That fixes everything Thanks a lot everyone! Quote Selected
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