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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #70 –
For Linux, at least on OpenSuse- remember to chmod the simutrans executable to let it run.

chmod 0700 simutrans-exp-latest
H./

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #71 –
Maragil,

thank you very much for that - I have added your instruction to the main post :-)
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #72 –
It would appear that the link to the latest version are not working?
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #73 –
Fixed now.
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #74 –
Quote from: jamespetts – on
Fixed now.

Sorry James but as of this moment in time the link is still returning "This Webpage Cannot Be Found". Even the new link for v6.5.
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #75 –
Colin,

thank you for the report: sorry that you are having trouble. I have now updated the links to the new Simutrans-Experimental FTP service very kindly provided by Isaac - tell me if those work for you :-)
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #76 –
Quote from: jamespetts – on
Colin,

thank you for the report: sorry that you are having trouble. I have now updated the links to the new Simutrans-Experimental FTP service very kindly provided by Isaac - tell me if those work for you :-)

Just tried the new link to the binaries same result. I'll try again later just in case there is something wrong my end.

 Ok I've been trying for the last hour or so and I'm getting the same results. I'm running IE8, but I use compatability mode when going to web sites that may not have caught up with the latest technology.
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #77 –
The first link is http://ftp//experimental.[ simutrans [dot] us (site down, do not visit) ]/public_ftp/Simutrans-Experimental%20Complete.zip it should be ftp://experimental.[ simutrans [dot] us (site down, do not visit) ]/public_ftp/Simutrans-Experimental%20Complete.zip.  Also, even with the corrected link, I still get an empty file.    The 2nd link works, but the download is semi-slow.

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #78 –
Quote from: mwoodburn81 – on
The first link is http://ftp//experimental.[ simutrans [dot] us (site down, do not visit) ]/public_ftp/Simutrans-Experimental%20Complete.zip it should be ftp://experimental.[ simutrans [dot] us (site down, do not visit) ]/public_ftp/Simutrans-Experimental%20Complete.zip.  Also, even with the corrected link, I still get an empty file.    The 2nd link works, but the download is semi-slow.

When I add :// after ftp to make it ftp://as soon as I click the link it converts it back to just ftp//

I'm not sure what you mean by '2nd link'? I can only find a link to v 6.4 and one to v6.5 they are both labeled Binaries and both go nowhere.

Also! If I click either of the Linux Binarie Links I get pages of machine language/windings/hieroglyphics
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #79 –
I am referring to the two links in the "Complete packages" section.

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #80 –
I fixed the broken FTP links in James' first post. Or rather hope that I found all of these links.

Forum is being stubborn and thinks it knows better than humans. For ftp links, use [.ftp.] instead of [.url.] and it will give in (sans the dots of course).

My projects... Tools for messing with Simutrans graphics. Graphic archive - templates and some other stuff for painters. Development logs for most recent information on what is going on. And of course pak128!

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #81 –
Quote from: VS – on
I fixed the broken FTP links in James' first post. Or rather hope that I found all of these links.

Forum is being stubborn and thinks it knows better than humans. For ftp links, use [.ftp.] instead of [.url.] and it will give in (sans the dots of course).

 This is the link as of this moment in time.  http://ftp//experimental.[ simutrans [dot] us (site down, do not visit) ]/public_ftp/simutrans-experimental.zip It doesn't work.
What are you suggesting be changed?
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #82 –
I meant to say that I fixed the first post, nothing beyond that. The correct link from what you posted (last) is this:

[ftp=ftp://experimental.[ simutrans [dot] us (site down, do not visit) ]/public_ftp/simutrans-experimental.zip]ftp://experimental.[ simutrans [dot] us (site down, do not visit) ]/public_ftp/simutrans-experimental.zip[/ftp]

My projects... Tools for messing with Simutrans graphics. Graphic archive - templates and some other stuff for painters. Development logs for most recent information on what is going on. And of course pak128!

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #83 –
Quote from: VS – on
I meant to say that I fixed the first post, nothing beyond that. The correct link from what you posted (last) is this:

[ftp=ftp://experimental.[ simutrans [dot] us (site down, do not visit) ]/public_ftp/simutrans-experimental.zip]ftp://experimental.[ simutrans [dot] us (site down, do not visit) ]/public_ftp/simutrans-experimental.zip[/ftp]

Sorry this one doesn't work either.
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #84 –
Quote from: VS – on
[ftp=ftp://experimental.[ simutrans [dot] us (site down, do not visit) ]/public_ftp/simutrans-experimental.zip]ftp://experimental.[ simutrans [dot] us (site down, do not visit) ]/public_ftp/simutrans-experimental.zip[/ftp]

The above link doesn't work for me either. And the link for the usual zipped file (with both GDI and SDL binaries) also doesn't work for me.

I can access the website forum.[ simutrans [dot] us (site down, do not visit) ], though.

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #85 –
Oh. You are right. It's just the corrected link so I ****umed it would be all right. Apparently the file is not there as well... :-\

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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #86 –
Strange, the silence of James on this subject??
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #87 –
For the record, it would be better to upload into public_html. Most people find http links easier to deal with. :)

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #88 –
Quote from: Isaac.Eiland-Hall – on
For the record, it would be better to upload into public_html. Most people find http links easier to deal with. :)
Nobody uses FTP anymore :(.   For anonymous transfers HTTP won out.  For user transfers we have SCP/SFTP.  May FTP rest in peace.  :-)

PS.  I don't think I would really miss it.

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #89 –
Well, FTP is fine for transferring public files, like this. It supports resuming interrupted downloads. And it is faster than HTTP; but these days, I think more people have problems with FTP vs. folks on lower speeds like dial-up where FTP might make a bit of difference. So I don't think I'd call FTP dead, just... surp****ed.

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #90 –
BUT!! Is anyone going to attempt to reply as to when, if ever, we can download the latest Simutrans-Experimental?? It's all well and good pontificating about ftp and http and uncle Tom Cobley but it doesn't get us any closer to solving the problem.
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #91 –
Quote from: mwoodburn81 – on
Nobody uses FTP anymore :(.
That's not correct. For example many people load the files for the homepage with ftp in the net.

Do you use Firefox? Than you can load a very nice addon "FireFTP". Very fast, stable and easy.

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #92 –
I am very sorry that people have been experiencing problems downloading some of the Simutrans-Experimental packages this week; apologies also for not having replied in relation to this sooner: I have been rather busy this week.

After having some problems with files.simutrans-germany.com, and also needing to upload larger packages (Pak128.Britain-Ex and the complete package) than Simutrans-Germany could comfortably support, Isaac very kindly gave me an FTP account at [ simutrans [dot] us (site down, do not visit) ], to which I uploaded the files.

However, for some reason, the complete package file does not work, and, when downloaded, produces an empty file. I do not understand how this problem has occurred, or whether it is related to using the FTP rather than HTTP. I have not yet had time to look into the problem: I hope to have some time on Saturday or Sunday evening.

In the meantime, the complete package can be downloaded from the secondary link (a public file sharing service), and I think that the base binaries for 6.5 work on the primary link.

Isaac, if you have any idea how the problem occurred, I should be most grateful for any suggestions. To everyone else - apologies for the difficulties.

Incidentally, I endorse Sojo's recommendation of FireFTP. FTP is certainly not dead, and, if it is faster than HTTP, it is a superior technology that should be used for transferring large binary files where possible.
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #93 –
The account I set up is a full-blown webhosting account, for example, with email and sql databases if you wanted. :)

FTP or SFTP can be used to upload files. Either way, the home directory you start in will contain public_ftp and public_http - those folders being the relevant public roots.

The way uploads work: a temporary file is created. Once the file is fully uploaded, it is renamed to the final filename. Perhaps something went wrong at this point, although I'm guessing, because this is not a problem I've noted before. :)

If you FTP client supports "SFTP", it might be worth it to use that protocol instead. (This technically connects via SSH - advantage being that the transfer is secure; but more importantly in this case - using a different protocol).

I personally recommend Filezilla as a trouble-free and completely-free FTP client, but of course any client should work fine.

If it were me, I'd upload under public_html, since most folks nowadays are more comfortable downloading via http - and will download links via their browser anyway.

Failing all else, you could even SSH into the server after uploading the file, and for example, from the initial directory:
cp public_ftp/yourfilename.zip public_html/yourfilename.zip

That would make it available in both locations.

(If you don't have SSH software, I recommend PuTTY (google for it - location can change) or http://www.bitvise.com/tunnelier which is a very very powerful package that allows you to remember login details so you log in with the click of a button, and gives one-click access to SFTP transfer as well as SSH terminal windows - it's awesome stuff)

Quote from: sojo – on
many people load the files for the homepage with ftp in the net.

I ****ume the scope of discussion was "to download files via Internet" -- but I would highly recommend against using FTP to upload files to hosting -- use SFTP instead, where possible, and consider ditching hosts that don't support it. FTP is inherently open to sniffing; SFTP is encrypted.

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #94 –
Thanks to Isaac's ****istance, I have now resolved the problem with the downloads - hopefully all of the downloads should now be working properly again. Apologies to everyone for the inconvenience when they were not working last week.  Happy downloading!
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #95 –
Quote from: jamespetts – on
Thanks to Isaac's ****istance, I have now resolved the problem with the downloads - hopefully all of the downloads should now be working properly again. Apologies to everyone for the inconvenience when they were not working last week.  Happy downloading!

Thank you James and of course Isaac, I've finally downloaded for the first time in ages, a Simutrans-Experimental, no h****les, no problems. Good onya guys.
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #96 –
Hey James, here's high praise for Experimental. I've just reinstalled Experimental and I'm running my latest game which was running under Standard. I couldn't believe the difference in the speed, Experimental is running really smooth but standard runs like everything is being pulled by a string. (Jerky and slow)

I presume thanks must go to Knightly for that?

Terrific work A1 credit rating.

PS: Map is 1024x1024 and I have a m****ive P****enger system running.
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #97 –
Colin,

very glad that you like it :-) Performance may well be down to Knightly, who has improved things greatly. I'm not sure why Standard runs more slowly, since that version is generally lighter computationally, but I'm just glad that Experimental works well for you :-)

I'd be interested to see your saved game if you don't mind uploading it.
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #98 –
Quote from: jamespetts – on
Colin,

I'd be interested to see your saved game if you don't mind uploading it.

Will do, I'll need your email address again though. I tried Windows 7 over the weekend and and laid waste to my computer.
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #99 –
I had a problem, i can't see the description of each truck (i had tried only with road transport) i can see only the amount of resources it can transport, but i don't see the mainteinance cost or the max speed.
Another thing, the category of the resources is shown like CATEGORY_02, all but live headstok.

I have windows vista and simutrans stop works several times and i have to lauch it again (it happens with the simutrans 102 too)

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #100 –
Arek,

make sure that you have installed the latest configuration files, including en.tab in the correct places.
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #101 –
Hello again, i think all is well installed, because if i play in english all work well, but if i play in spanish, i have the problem with some of the vehicles...
how can i fix it?

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #102 –
The problem is that nobody has translated Simutrans-Experimental into Spanish yet. We currently don't have any volunteers for that, and I don't speak Spanish, so I can't help. If anyone would like to do so, I'd be very grateful.
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Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #103 –
I've just downloaded and I'm a little confused, the simutrn experimental says version 6.6, am I missing something?

Re: How to get Simutrans-Experimental

Reply #104 –
Shunter,

which link did you use?
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