p****engers on sub-way system August 13, 2009, 10:31:38 am I play Pak128 v102 with the addition of high rise buildings from Pak128 Japan add-ons. I have built a large modern city which consist largely of high rise buildings and to serve my citizens I have a sub-way system consisting of a loop one level below city made of 8 stations each 6 tiles apart. My problem.. no citizens board the subway train. The stations show a yellow bar and the message in the details says "no direct connection".Do I need a surface connection? Thank you, Grampybear Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #1 – August 13, 2009, 10:53:47 am Which trainstation did you use, you have to use stations that accept p****engers. When you open the train toolbar, you can see what the different station types accept in the upper right corner of every station Icon.GreetsRohal Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #2 – August 13, 2009, 11:05:47 am I used the surface gray half covered platform which says it holds 160 p****engers. Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #3 – August 13, 2009, 01:17:09 pm I thought all stations could hold p****engers, but not all could hold freight... Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #4 – August 13, 2009, 02:04:00 pm Followup. I connected subway stop to above ground bus terminal whichservices two other communities. P****angers travel from other communities to bus terminal attached to subway but are afraid to travel underground to or from the high rise buildings. Subway continues to run empty.Grampybear Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #5 – August 13, 2009, 08:04:12 pm Hi Grampybear,maybe you can upload some screenshots are a savegame, that might help to see whats the problem.GreetsRohal Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #6 – August 13, 2009, 09:21:54 pm The attached screen shot shows below ground level. I now have only 7 stations and they are no longer evenly spaced as per my first post. Hope this helps. Grampybear Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #7 – August 14, 2009, 01:46:54 pm What kind of train are you using? Otherwise, it might be a bug in the add-ons, idk.By the way, you can post up your savegame at http://simutrans-germany.com/files/Stick user + p**** from forums in, and ta-da - then we can check! Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #8 – August 14, 2009, 02:37:26 pm Thank you all for the continued help. I am using the HARU HST train consisting of 3 vehicles,front & rear engine and 1 car carring 78 p****engers.The idea that it might be the add-ons could be right because I cannot get p****engers to board a surface bus at any of the surface stations I added while trying to work out this problem. Grampybear Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #9 – August 14, 2009, 02:43:15 pm Hmm - have you tried it again, using a different city perhaps? Upload please, then we can have a better looksies! Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #10 – August 14, 2009, 04:37:22 pm I have uploaded the full save game as "Newport.sve" to the german site. Not sure I did it right, first time uploading this type of information.Grampybear Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #11 – August 14, 2009, 06:15:10 pm Hi grampybear,would be nice if you can list the addons you use. because without them we cant use the savegame.GreetsRohal Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #12 – August 14, 2009, 06:45:04 pm I am really feeling bad..the longer this goes on the more I realize I created a large mess and probably have wasted too much of your time. This is what I have done: I started with PAK128 v102 then I added the British Industry PAK and the tourist attractions from PAK128 Britian along with the British Depot PAK. These all worked well and gives me a large seletion of inner city industries. I then moved to PAK128 Japan and added the road trains, oil tankers,several buses,and some of the ships and recently added most of the skyscraper buildings from the PAK128 Japan english site. The skyscrapers although shown as tourist attractions with large numbers of p****engers do not seem to work to allow pickup or discharge of these p****engers for both the buses and rail service. The buses and trains stop at the station but no one ever gets on or off and no one in other cities wants to go to the tall buildings. If you want to put this whole request aside and call it done, I fully understand. Thank you for all the time you have allready put into this. Grampybear Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #13 – August 14, 2009, 07:07:52 pm Ah - I think I'll drop here. Those are too many files!!! Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #14 – August 14, 2009, 07:24:31 pm You could always upload your pak directory too... Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #15 – August 14, 2009, 07:27:19 pm Too big :O - I'd expect it to be 20MB+ Quote Selected
Re: p****engers on sub-way system Reply #16 – August 18, 2009, 11:46:42 pm With several pak-sets (or parts of them), your goods definitions are probably messed up. Also, IIRC, Japanese Pak-makers traded mail for 1st cl**** p****engers, and different pak-sets can have different names for similar goods.If you look at the list of good*.pak files in the pak folder (and show it to us), you may see the conflicts, and maybe solve part of the problem by deactivating duplicate p****enger and mail definitions (rename them to .pak_deact). However, this may not fix the buildings that depend on these definitions. Quote Selected