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Exist p****engers gone !?

Hello everybody!

I just got a problem with my updated 101.00 [from 99.17 [from 88.15]]

In my map , in general , should have p****engers/freight in it.

Now all gone ! :'(

What should I do ?

Giving some specification as reference:
OS : XP Pro, Trad Chinese , Hong Kong
Ver : 101.00, pak128

 

Re: Exist p****engers gone !?

Reply #1
Are you playing the same savegame since 88.15?

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Reply #2
I think I had over-typed in above description.
This is a file which compiled from 99.14 > .15 > .16 > .17 > 101.00

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Reply #3
Could you please provide the savegame for download (e.g. on this site), and also tell us the exact versions of Simutrans and Pak128 where the savegame works normally, and those versions where the problem starts?

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Reply #4
from where can I take this footbridge?

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Reply #5
Could you please provide the savegame for download (e.g. on this site), and also tell us the exact versions of Simutrans and Pak128 where the savegame works normally, and those versions where the problem starts?

My save :
Click Here (Expire Day : 18 March 2009 23:00:00 HKG Time Zone)

Exact SIMUTRANS Version using right now:
101.00

Exact SIMUTRANS PAK Version using right now:
PAK128 , 1.4.4

other PAK128 using right now :
998 files

Problem starts:
Only from 101.00 , once I load back the files , all stations are strange that no one is waiting.

Re: Exist p****engers gone !?

Reply #6
Oh, you also use add-ons? Then we will need them, too, because the game will not load otherwise. However, the add-ons might be the reason for your problem.
How did you upgrade Simutrans and Pak128?:
- by copying the new versions into the same folders as before: this will not work, or give problems during loading or running the game => possible reason
- by installing the new versions into another folder tree: here, you have to install *all* add-ons again, or vehicles etc. may be replaced by random others ones (or the savegame may not even load), and some may be replaced by incorrect objects, leading to unusable routes or stations, which in turn leads to loss of connectivity and waiting p****engers/goods

Edit: I was able to load the savegame (BTW: compressing it with RAR is unnecessary, because it's already compressed), but it's dysfunctional, as reported, and full of randomly replaced objects (due to missing add-ons).

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Reply #7
Information window shows p****enger level of all city buildings are zero.
This means p****enger_factor of your savegame is zero.

I don't know this is the bug of 101.0 or not.
If you have old savegame, try the latest stable 102.0.

BTW, I repaired your savegame. Try this.
http://japanese.simutrans.com/clip/983.zip

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Reply #8
Information window shows p****enger level of all city buildings are zero.
This means p****enger_factor of your savegame is zero.
There are more problems with it: vehicles have been replaced by ones which can't move at all - and the game stops responding on my computer, because a bazillion of error messages is popping up.

Re: Exist p****engers gone !?

Reply #9
Oh, you also use add-ons? Then we will need them, too, because the game will not load otherwise. However, the add-ons might be the reason for your problem.
How did you upgrade Simutrans and Pak128?:
- by copying the new versions into the same folders as before: this will not work, or give problems during loading or running the game => possible reason
- by installing the new versions into another folder tree: here, you have to install *all* add-ons again, or vehicles etc. may be replaced by random others ones (or the savegame may not even load), and some may be replaced by incorrect objects, leading to unusable routes or stations, which in turn leads to loss of connectivity and waiting p****engers/goods

Edit: I was able to load the savegame (BTW: compressing it with RAR is unnecessary, because it's already compressed), but it's dysfunctional, as reported, and full of randomly replaced objects (due to missing add-ons).
There are more problems with it: vehicles have been replaced by ones which can't move at all - and the game stops responding on my computer, because a bazillion of error messages is popping up.

Again , Here's the list :
My save :
Click Here (Expire Day : 18 March 2009 23:00:00 HKG Time Zone)

Exact SIMUTRANS Version using right now:
101.00

Exact SIMUTRANS PAK Version using right now:
PAK128 , 1.4.4

other PAK128 using right now :
Click Here (Expire Day : 18 March 2009 23:00:00 HKG Time Zone)

Problem starts:
Only from 101.00 , once I load back the files , all stations are strange that no one is waiting.

Information window shows p****enger level of all city buildings are zero.
This means p****enger_factor of your savegame is zero.

I don't know this is the bug of 101.0 or not.
If you have old savegame, try the latest stable 102.0.

BTW, I repaired your savegame. Try this.
http://japanese.simutrans.com/clip/983.zip


Thank you for repairing my save file.
Unfortunately, it still keep zero when imported to the game, ver.101.00.


Re: Exist p****engers gone !?

Reply #10
Unfortunately, it still keep zero when imported to the game, ver.101.00.

Repaired game works fine for me.
Did you run it more than 1 minute ?

It needs long time to generate p****engers. It takes almost one month.


I edited the savegame directly with hex editor.
And changed the value of p****enger_factor from zero to 16 (default).

Re: Exist p****engers gone !?

Reply #11
Repaired game works fine for me.
Did you run it more than 1 minute ?

It needs long time to generate p****engers. It takes almost one month.


I edited the savegame directly with hex editor.
And changed the value of p****enger_factor from zero to 16 (default).

Oh............
It loads magically (after another year)!! Thank you so much!

BTW, the file right now is nothing related with config file futhurmore ?

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Reply #12
101.0 and after versions store many settings into each savegame file, because of network games in future versions.
So, some part of settings in simuconf.tab will only affect to new games.

Savegames saved in old versions don't have these settings, it will be added when first time saved in 101.0 or after versions.
(I don't know why it stored into your game "p****enger_factor=0".)

If you still have trouble with new games, remove "settings.xml" and "default.sve" from simutrans user folder. This might help.

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Reply #13
101.0 and after versions store many settings into each savegame file, because of network games in future versions.
So, some part of settings in simuconf.tab will only affect to new games.

Savegames saved in old versions don't have these settings, it will be added when first time saved in 101.0 or after versions.
(I don't know why it stored into your game "p****enger_factor=0".)

If you still have trouble with new games, remove "settings.xml" and "default.sve" from simutrans user folder. This might help.

Should I update to 102.00 for some bug-fix in the application?

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Reply #14
Hmm, from what Z9999 says, there appears to be a bug in the algorithm that gives default values to older save game files...
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