Plane Routes (maybe silly question) April 06, 2009, 05:39:16 pm Okay, I have only ever managed 1 profitable route and I am an OTTD player trying to adjust to Simutrans. However, one thing frustrates me. I have tried to set up plane routes and I keep getting "[vehicle x] can't find a route." The airports are set up properly with stops, a runway, taxiways etc. I have set up schedules and I can't figure out how to get the annoying things to work. Can anyone help me? I couldn't find an answer on the wiki or here or even in the manual. Quote Selected
Re: Plane Routes (maybe silly question) Reply #1 – April 06, 2009, 05:47:54 pm Control tower? Quote Selected
Re: Plane Routes (maybe silly question) Reply #2 – April 06, 2009, 05:50:57 pm Welcome to the forum! Which pakset and version are you using, and which exe version? Screenshots and possibly a savegame might help as well. @VS - didn't think control towers were necessary - aren't they just eyecandy? Quote Selected
Re: Plane Routes (maybe silly question) Reply #3 – April 06, 2009, 06:44:26 pm Having played a lot of TTD in a previous life, the first thing that comes to mind is: when you are building your route, you are clicking on the aircraft loading area, and not the runway or taxiway, right? Quote Selected
Re: Plane Routes (maybe silly question) Reply #4 – April 06, 2009, 07:11:24 pm Other than in (O)TTD, Simutrans airports are built tile-by-tile, the actual airport consists of loading areas and extension buildings. All of the tiles where the planes need to move (runways and taxiways - loading areas are located on the latter) must be interconnected properly, and the connection to the next airport must p**** a runway on each of the involved airports, otherwise the plane won't find a path. Taxiways must not attach to an end tile of a runway. Hangars must not be placed on a runway or in the middle of a taxiway. (There are more rules - I usually don't play with airplanes, so my experience in this regard is negligible.) Quote Selected Last Edit: April 06, 2009, 07:16:44 pm by whoami
Re: Plane Routes (maybe silly question) Reply #5 – April 06, 2009, 07:16:49 pm Whoami, he says he searched on wiki and in manual And yes, towers are needed unless something changed and I didn't look. Quote Selected
Re: Plane Routes (maybe silly question) Reply #6 – April 06, 2009, 07:32:22 pm Quote from: VS – on April 06, 2009, 07:16:49 pmWhoami, he says he searched on wiki and in manualThe manuals (both starter guide and reference manual) contain info about building an airport, but they don't show the reader all rules (or the possible errors). So if the player doesn't build the airport exactly as shown, it may not work for some reason.Are you trying to hint me at writing down this stuff in the Wiki? It doesn't even cover airports, but there is an introduction page for TTD players.QuoteAnd yes, towers are needed unless something changed and I didn't look.Why would they be necessary in ST? Quote Selected
Re: Plane Routes (maybe silly question) Reply #7 – April 06, 2009, 07:48:14 pm @VS - look at my screenshot in pakBritain development thread and see how many control towers there are http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=1420.msg19151#msg19151 Quote Selected
Re: Plane Routes (maybe silly question) Reply #8 – April 07, 2009, 06:53:34 am Perhaps you're interested in this tutorial about Building an airport and making it work. It's in portuguesse. Quote Selected
Re: Plane Routes (maybe silly question) Reply #9 – April 07, 2009, 06:59:05 am Pity I can't read Portugese!I have control towers and clicked on the aircraft loading area in both cases. I also have taxiways linked to the runway, terminals and stops. The schedule is showing both airports and I have the same problem in both pak64 and pak128.britain. I will send screenshots later today. Quote Selected
Re: Plane Routes (maybe silly question) Reply #10 – April 07, 2009, 07:11:31 am Quote from: whoami – on April 06, 2009, 07:32:22 pmThe manuals (both starter guide and reference manual) contain info about building an airport, but they don't show the reader all rules (or the possible errors). So if the player doesn't build the airport exactly as shown, it may not work for some reason.Well Control Towers are new to me (and I don't think I know all the rules or errors) and I haven't checked the "How to Construct an Airport" since Simutrans 89.something.I don't use aircraft much but I will improve the document. Ormac Quote Selected
Re: Plane Routes (maybe silly question) Reply #11 – April 07, 2009, 07:27:28 am Quote from: donchatryit – on April 07, 2009, 06:59:05 amPity I can't read Portugese!Neither I, but in these cases, online translators are your best friends .. Quote Selected
Re: Plane Routes (maybe silly question) Reply #12 – April 07, 2009, 08:07:51 am I am a pro translator. I know what those things do. It is more likely it will think the page is a tutorial on how to cook an egg than it is to give me useful, well translated info. However, given the options, I will give it a try. If that thing instructs me to takeover Chile with a waffle-maker and a spork, it's all your fault! Quote Selected
Re: Plane Routes (maybe silly question) Reply #13 – April 10, 2009, 06:24:22 pm split offtopic (my fault anyway): http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=1884.0 Quote Selected