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Some goods stopped being transpoerted to new locations

Hello,

I have mentioned about my problem previously here http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=3309.msg33091#msg33091 but since it was off topic I decided to create a new topic.

I have a pretty advanced network where I transport both p****angers and goods. There is no problem with transporting p****angers but I am starting to experience problems with transporting goods. this issue applies to Chemicals and Gasoline.

First of all - all factories are connected with their consumers (have contracts) and they are connected with suppliers as well. I am using the correct type of transport as well so that is not an issue.

As for the problem with chemicals. I have not been able to transport chemicals from the Chemical plant to the pharmaceutics in order to produce medicine. I have tried it with multiple chemical factories and multiple pharmaceutics with no positive effect. The truck/train just stops at the station and doesn't load at all, just as if there was no such industry chain that produces pharmaceutisc. The strange thing is that I can transport chemicals directly to the chemists without no problems...

As for Gasoline - this is even more strange and frustrating for me. I have been able to transport gasoline from the Refinery to gas stations earlier. I have one refinery that supplies the whole map with petrol and I successfully transport about 10k m3 each month to gas stations. recently I have added a new sub-network and I have decided to transport gasoline there, but I am unable to do it now even though I could do it before. Please note that all factories are connected as they should.
My first guess was that maybe there is a limit of the number of customers for a Refinery, so I have built an additional one (of course supplied it with oil) but that didn't help at all. the trains still wait at the station but nothing is loaded, while the older lines still transport gasoline...

I play 102,0 pak64 with few addons - any ideas please??

ET

Re: Some goods stopped being transpoerted to new locations

Reply #1 –
Well i ****ume the staions involved are capable of handling goods, because that was the solution in the other thread.

I dont know about a max number of customers for a supplier, but there is a maximum quantity of goods it can produce (max-output in dat) so probably your refinery can't produce enough to supply all customers.

Next thing is, suppliers stop producing if the customers station is crowded.

And there is a limit of transfers (change from one vehicle to another) that goods and p****engers will take to reach their destination. Standard is 9, so a good will take ten different vehicles to reach it's destination if thats not enough it won't find a route.

Re: Some goods stopped being transpoerted to new locations

Reply #2 –
Quote from: mobo – on
Well i ****ume the staions involved are capable of handling goods, because that was the solution in the other thread.

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Yes they are capable

I dont know about a max number of customers for a supplier, but there is a maximum quantity of goods it can produce (max-output in dat) so probably your refinery can't produce enough to supply all customers.

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I build each industry   (and city also BTW) as a public player. The capaticy of the Refinery id 9999 and the factory is connected to electricity.

Next thing is, suppliers stop producing if the customers station is crowded.

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At the station I have other factories that keep producing even if the station is overcrowded. Also the same refinery produces petrol for other gas stations as usuall.


And there is a limit of transfers (change from one vehicle to another) that goods and p****engers will take to reach their destination. Standard is 9, so a good will take ten different vehicles to reach it's destination if thats not enough it won't find a route.

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Nope that's not it also, the max transfers on a route I have is 4... thanks for trying :)

Re: Some goods stopped being transpoerted to new locations

Reply #3 –
Quote from: Erniii – on
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Next thing is, suppliers stop producing if the customers station is crowded.

At the station I have other factories that keep producing even if the station is overcrowded. Also the same refinery produces petrol for other gas stations as usuall.

This might indicate that the gas station which isn't getting any petrol is already full and its station is crowded, so the refinery produces nothing for it (it is already full), but the refinery keeps producing for other gas stations that aren't full.

Check the industry status of the gas station in question.  See if it has a full stock of petrol.

Re: Some goods stopped being transpoerted to new locations

Reply #4 –
No, the gas station cannot be full because it never received any petrol to produce it. The station is not overcrowded for sure.

Is it possible because of some addon that I have?

Re: Some goods stopped being transpoerted to new locations

Reply #5 –
Quote from: Erniii – on
Is it possible because of some addon that I have?
Yes, incompatible add-ons can create problems with goods categories, thereby prohibiting transport, but there are other possible reasons. Which add-ons did you install?

Re: Some goods stopped being transpoerted to new locations

Reply #6 –
Thanks whoami for the reply. I have installed the following industries: nuclear power plant, wine, electronics - also LNBC Vechicles I and II. All addons downloaded from the official site.

I have added the industry addons at the very begining of the game and I had no problems transporting these goods. LNBC was added much later, so could that be it?

 

Re: Some goods stopped being transpoerted to new locations

Reply #8 –
Quote from: whoami – on
Maybe it's easiest to help you if you provide the savegame and the required addons for downloading, e.g. at http://simutrans-germany.com/files/index.php?lang=en.

Sure - that is a good idea. Please find the files below:

http://simutrans-germany.com/files/upload/Monorail_test_v1.sve
Industries:
http://addons.simutrans.com/get.php?type=addon&aid=15
http://addons.simutrans.com/get.php?type=addon&aid=14
http://addons.simutrans.com/get.php?type=addon&aid=16
Vechicles:
http://addons.simutrans.com/get.php?type=addon&aid=13
http://addons.simutrans.com/get.php?type=addon&aid=12

Once you install the adfdons and load my game go to (357,243). Thjere you will find a newly built gas station that has the rpoblem. The refinery supplying it is located in the (360,474) area. Try adding couple of new gas stations and connect them to the refinery.

As for the issues with chemicals. Check out the chemical plant next to Rotterdam Port (395,367). It is producing chemicals for the chemist shops. I have tried to supply chemicals to both pharmaceutics that have contract with that factory without positive results so I have deleted the 2 lines...

Please let me know your thoughts on this one.

ET

Re: Some goods stopped being transpoerted to new locations

Reply #9 –
Ok, between gas station and refinery the transport chain is incomplete. You have a train from refinery to harbour, and from the other harbour to the fuel station - but apparently no ship in between. I just added one and the transport started as it should.

Will now look into the chemical issue...

EDIT:
Ok, for the pharmaceutics (the one in Ysselsteyn) the bus stops you used do not enable goods, only p****enger transport. Once that's fixed, production and transport begin (after I put a truck on that route of course).
  
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