Ships for Pak128

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Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #35 – June 20, 2010, 09:13:09 am

it's a nice one, as usual

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #36 – June 20, 2010, 09:23:50 am

Quote from: gauthier – on June 20, 2010, 09:13:09 am

it's a nice one, as usual

Thanks a lot, gauthier. I'm happy you like them

Btw, I've three more ships on the desk, which are a cooled goods ship, a tanker and a car carrier. I'll start with them as soon as I have some more time.

But there is need for ships to transport wood, grain and wool/cotton. I don't have any reference/idea to make those ships, if you have any, please make suggestions here. I've only thought of making only two ships for all these, one for wood and another for farm products. Maybe I could use a remake of the steeler Edmund Fitzgerald for the wood transport... What do you think?

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #37 – June 20, 2010, 11:34:10 am

When searching it's probably good to replace "wood" with "lumber" since that is the least ambiguous term (imo). I got at least some useful images that way...

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #38 – June 20, 2010, 02:09:51 pm

Thanks VS. I've found some of them using lumber/timber as search strings:

The Irish Rowan, see it here.
The MV Artic Sea (small one), here.
And the Ice Prince, this one.

I'll decide later on which of them is the winner

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #39 – June 20, 2010, 08:21:41 pm

My vote is for MV Artic Sea. I love the cranes that has on deck.

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #40 – June 20, 2010, 09:27:00 pm

Ok folks, after a boring sunday, there's a new ship for the pak

This is the MV New Zealand Star, a refrigerated cargo vessel built in 1967 and broken up in 1993. It can be used to fill the timeline gap of the second half of 20th century.
You can see some previews and data at my blog: MV New Zealand Star article.

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #41 – June 20, 2010, 10:23:10 pm

You're really back!

Re ship, great as always.

Here's what I liked from older periods... it's amazing how hard it is to learn about something OLD.
schooner #1
schooner #2
steamer

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #42 – June 21, 2010, 09:19:18 pm

Sorry, can't see the last link; it looks like broken or somewhat happened with it... btw these are quite old, it will take me a while to get to these ones, as 1900-1950 and 1950-2000 are the two main gaps in which I divided the needed timeline. Once done, I'll get to older ships

You should also take a look to this one, I bet you like it: The Zoroaster; it was supposed to be the first oil tanker in the world. But it looks strange to me such an earlier steamer (~1870) ... >:/

Back to the lumber carriers...

Quote from: vilvoh – on June 20, 2010, 08:21:41 pm

My vote is for MV Artic Sea. I love the cranes that has on deck.

Just found a couple of nice images here, the images on the middle (the clickable ones, which are larger). These are great pics, and show the cranes that vilvoh noted... they're really nice!

I'll make a version for this ship, but probably bigger than the real one (it's only 97 meters long).

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #43 – June 22, 2010, 10:24:25 am

Hmmm.... I just wanted to illustrate that old ships for wood look like ships with some wood on them

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Reply #44 – June 22, 2010, 09:13:59 pm

Oh sure, thanks anyway

Actually that's what I did with the steel hauler Edmund Fitzgerald, just filled gaps with steel bars ans planks...
But as always I like to have a real vehicle to use as inspiration

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #45 – June 24, 2010, 05:57:50 pm

Hi back, there's a new ship for the pak! This time is a tanker for the 1959+ timeline gap, named Nordic Heron and able to carry up to 650 m³ of petrol.
As usual, you can take a look to the ship's article at my blog.

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #46 – June 25, 2010, 04:00:35 pm

Back with a new ship. It's the Owari Maru, a newly built japanese bulk carrier (2007).
You can see pics & info in the here in my blog. Hope you like it

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #47 – June 25, 2010, 04:03:46 pm

Is she completely new?

I think there are a few differences from your old version...

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Reply #48 – June 25, 2010, 04:14:37 pm

Yep, it's an old design I had, which has been completely re-textured, and resized to fit the pak scale... you never miss a detail!

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #49 – June 25, 2010, 09:26:24 pm

Very nice.

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #50 – June 26, 2010, 11:06:06 am

Thanks DirrrtyDirk and everybody else for you praises. I'm glad you all like the ships

Btw, I'd better write the current timeline/set status. I'll divide it by goods category:

Piece goods:

Ship Name	Intro Year	Retire Year	Status
RVg Merchant Ship	1812	1905	Existent
Willamette Chief	1870	1920	Finished
Black Osprey	1918	1958	Finished
Patagonia	1951	1991	Finished
Stoyko Peev	1985	-	Finished
Emma Maersk	2006	-	60%

Oil:

Ship Name	Intro Year	Retire Year	Status
British Premier	1922	-	Finished
Nordic Heron	1958	-	Finished
Batillus	1976	-	60%
Knock Nevis	1981	-	60%

Steel:

Ship Name	Intro Year	Retire Year	Status
Black Osprey	1918	1958	Finished
Edmund Fitzgerald	1958	-	Finished

Cooled Goods:

Ship Name	Intro Year	Retire Year	Status
MHz Fish Trawler (fishing boat)	1925	1964	Existent
Nororn (fishing boat)	1964	-	Finished
New Zealand Star (cooled cargo)	1967	-	Finished

Bulk:

Ship Name	Intro Year	Retire Year	Status
Eaglescliffe Hall	1928	1961	Finished
Lake Illawarra	1958	1982	Finished
MV Fedra	1982	-	Finished
Owari Maru	2007	-	Finished

Lumber:

Ship Name	Intro Year	Retire Year	Status
Eaglescliffe Hall (refitted)	1928	1961	Finished
Edmund Fitzgerald (refitted)	1958	-	Finished

Farm products:

Ship Name	Intro Year	Retire Year	Status
Willamette Chief (sacks, refitted)	1870	1920	Finished
Black Osprey (sacks, refitted)	1918	1958	Finished
Lake Illawarra (bulk grain, refitted)	1958	-	Finished
Patagonia (sacks, refitted)	1951	-	Finished

Milk:

Ship Name	Intro Year	Retire Year	Status
Maraki	?	?	0%

P****engers:

Ship Name	Intro Year	Retire Year	Status
Rvg P****enger Sailing Ship (ferry)	1833	1901	Existent
Willamette Chief (ferry)	1870	1904	Finished
Freya (ferry)	1904	1949	Finished
MV Balmoral (ferry)	1949	-	Finished
RMS Baltic (ocean liner)	1904	1933	Finished

So, if I missed something, please warn me!
After the briefing, these are the most urgent gaps I need to fill:

One ocean liner, for the timeline gap after 1933
~~A ships/barges for lumber transport, for aprox. era between 1920 and 1960~~
~~A bulker for the gap before 1958~~
~~A bulker for the 1982-2007 gap~~
An old fishing ship for the gap before 1964 - Could we use MHz's existing one?
~~An early tanker, for the gap before 1958~~

Oppinions, suggestions, etc. are welcome

Edit:

Other ships that may be needed (but not so badly):

A couple more ocean liners for the most modern era
A ship/barge for lumber transport before 1928
A bulker for the gap before 1928[/s]
An even older fishing ship for the 1870 era

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #51 – June 26, 2010, 11:17:48 am

Here are a few ships that I researched for myself earlier...

English River
1961
packet, so it could take a lot of cargos... it has an eeeeevil stern

http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Acs%3Aofficial&q=ship+%22english+river%22&btnG=Search
http://www.boatnerd.com/pictures/fleet/eriver.htm
http://www.flickr.com/search/?s=int&w=all&q=ship+%22english+river%22&m=text
http://www.danieldubois.net/paintings/909/
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=597418

Kramatorsk
1980
bulker

http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Vm8&rls=org.mozilla%3Acs%3Aofficial&q=ship+kramatorsk&btnG=Search
http://www.vesseltracker.com/en/Gallery/Vessels/Kramatorsk-8031122.html
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?MMSI=213905000

Munksund
1968
"bulker" but carried various stuff

http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=8TT&rls=org.mozilla:cs:official&&sa=X&ei=cdklTNTxK8mCOMvMqc4C&ved=0CB0QBSgA&q=ship+munksund&spell=1
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo-554642-Munksund
http://www.kommandobryggan.se/last/munksund.htm

edit: I'd like to point out that there are at least two scales to ship transport - you could call them naval and river. These do not have to be so strongly separated, but there is definitely a need for small scale transport, too. "Old" 128 suffered from this really strongly with ferries...

edit2: there are some MHz ships that can stay, mostly barges and that.. small scale

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #52 – June 26, 2010, 02:02:29 pm

Thanks, VS. They are probably too modern for my needs, but I'll see for additional ships. For the modern bulker I've already decided to paint the spanish MV Fedra. Guess why...

Edit: The whole process!

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #53 – June 26, 2010, 02:54:50 pm

No need to do these if you found your own! And I thought you'd give us a video of you modelling the ship

edit: Golden find

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunedin_%28ship%29

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Reply #54 – June 26, 2010, 04:36:50 pm

Wow, nice finding! Link saved

Btw, the MV Fedra is ready! See article, videos and pictures at my blog. Hope you also like it!!

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #55 – June 27, 2010, 05:07:54 pm

Two new ships added to the repo. The early tanker (British Premier) and the early bulker (Eaglescliffe Hall), which has also a lumber version. You can see the articles at my blog:

British Premier, oil tanker (1922-1959)
Eaglescliffe Hall, bulk / lumber transport (1928-1961)

With these two ships and all the versions (reffited ships) we have an acceptable timeline for all cargo ships, from 1920s to the end of the game. Now the most needed are ocean liners, specially modern ones, and later on some ships for the gaps between 1870 and 1920.

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #56 – June 27, 2010, 06:11:32 pm

When looking at your ship pack, i suspect a conspiracy between you and Prissi:

There's no denying, the both of you are about to introduce disasters and catastrophes into the game! Just look at those ships, most of them sunk, some taking whole bridges with them.

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #57 – June 28, 2010, 03:57:39 pm

Quote from: sdog – on June 27, 2010, 06:11:32 pm

Just look at those ships, most of them sunk, some taking whole bridges with them.

No, no way. But you have to consider that ships that sunk or collided with bridges are the most popular, and obviously is easier to find information and websites talking about them.

I'll paint now a couple of ocean liners to finish the p****enger timeline. I promise there will be no Titanic!

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #58 – July 03, 2010, 04:22:15 am

Please someone provide me to the links where i can download this ships... Are the compressed as a single file? Cant wait to see this ship sailing....Thanks.

Please include the download link for the Big Mama - the Emma Maersk. Thank you.

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #59 – July 03, 2010, 10:05:03 am

I'm sorry there aren't any links yet. The set is under development, but it will be finished soon. Keep an eye over the nightly

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #60 – July 03, 2010, 05:59:10 pm

Ok, thanks, will be waiting for it.

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #61 – July 09, 2010, 08:22:47 am

Zeno, i saw your simutrans creations. I want to have those sets too. Where can I download it? Thanks.

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #62 – July 09, 2010, 11:27:16 am

Quote from: FoxHole – on July 09, 2010, 08:22:47 am

Zeno, i saw your simutrans creations. I want to have those sets too. Where can I download it? Thanks.

Some of them are already available in the current nightly version of Pak128: oil wagons, a couple of EMUs and TGVs. Ships might be included soon also (but this will have to wait until last weeks of this summer).

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Reply #63 – July 09, 2010, 11:56:21 am

Ok thank you so much !

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #64 – August 12, 2010, 05:27:39 pm

Quote from: Zeno – on July 09, 2010, 11:27:16 am

this will have to wait until last weeks of this summer

It seems ...

two weeks are left to go - but I would to see them in next weekend nightly

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #65 – August 12, 2010, 05:41:02 pm

Quote from: VaclavMacurek – on August 12, 2010, 05:27:39 pm

this will have to wait until last weeks of this summer

Well... err... you know... Spain is a sunny place and summer extends also to September

Just joking

There are a couple of ships missing yet, but I guess they will be done next week. Anyway, I will wait for the pak mantainer to come back to include them, so forget about the nightly until mid/end september.

OTOH, I may consider releasing a custom Addon set of ships. But I'm sorry it won't be in next weekend, no way

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #66 – August 12, 2010, 07:43:57 pm

Quote from: Zeno – on August 12, 2010, 05:41:02 pm

Well... err... you know... Spain is a sunny place and summer extends also to September

But I'm sorry it won't be in next weekend, no way

Of course, some years it is similar also here, in Czech republic. I think that grapes would be very good regardless of crazy weather conditions. The first grapes would be harvested around of name-day of me - it means on the 28^th of September.

I am only looking forward to seeing them in game very much - and for quite long time. Next weeked (21^st and 22^nd of August; if you got I think weekend of 14^th and 15^th of August, I am sorry for I did not write it better) I am going to celebrate (haha; because I have not ever done it) my birthday.

I wish I had an idea and enthusiasm to do anything for Simutrans again. Then I would give people playing pak128 any other addon - as gift to my birthday.

Re: Ships for Pak128

Reply #67 – August 15, 2010, 11:17:35 pm

New ship done, the RMS Queen Elisabeth 2 ocean liner, and its article at my blog can be read here.

One or two car carriers are left to complete the basic pakset (minimum set to release). Some ships might be added later, but I won't make any promise about it