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Crashes on startup

March 27, 2010, 03:17:19 am

Hi james.

I'm having some trouble getting 7.2 up and running.
it refuses to start up and crashes right at the beginning
I downloaded both the 7.2 exe files and config files.

I'm running WinXP SP3
here's the error log

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?>
<DATABASE>
<EXE NAME="Simutrans-Experimental.exe" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_PRIVACY">
    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="bzip2.dll" SIZE="63488" CHECKSUM="0x8D2BE7AF" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x1D1C6" LINKER_VERSION="0x10000" LINK_DATE="07/24/2009 10:20:30" UPTO_LINK_DATE="07/24/2009 10:20:30" />
    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="Simutrans-Experimental-SDL.exe" SIZE="2278400" CHECKSUM="0x15C11BFA" BIN_FILE_VERSION="102.3.7.2" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="102.3.7.2" PRODUCT_VERSION="102.3 Experimental 7.2" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Simutrans-Experimental" COMPANY_NAME="Simutrans Team" PRODUCT_NAME="Simutrans-Experimental" FILE_VERSION="102.3 Experimental 7.2" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="simutrans-experimental.exe" INTERNAL_NAME="simutrans-experimental" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Hj. Malthaner '97-'04 Simutrans Team '05-09 (Artistic Licence)" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x0" VERFILETYPE="0x0" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x237961" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="102.3.7.2" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="102.3.7.2" LINK_DATE="03/26/2010 13:26:28" UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/26/2010 13:26:28" />
    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="Simutrans-Experimental.exe" SIZE="2279936" CHECKSUM="0x853AEC31" BIN_FILE_VERSION="102.3.7.2" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="102.3.7.2" PRODUCT_VERSION="102.3 Experimental 7.2" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Simutrans-Experimental" COMPANY_NAME="Simutrans Team" PRODUCT_NAME="Simutrans-Experimental" FILE_VERSION="102.3 Experimental 7.2" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="simutrans-experimental.exe" INTERNAL_NAME="simutrans-experimental" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Hj. Malthaner '97-'04 Simutrans Team '05-09 (Artistic Licence)" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x0" VERFILETYPE="0x0" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x237A51" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="102.3.7.2" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="102.3.7.2" LINK_DATE="03/26/2010 13:06:49" UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/26/2010 13:06:49" />
    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="simutrans.exe" SIZE="1351680" CHECKSUM="0x2F0021E3" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x14CA7A" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="12/07/2009 22:24:22" UPTO_LINK_DATE="12/07/2009 22:24:22" />
</EXE>
<EXE NAME="kernel32.dll" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_THISFILEONLY">
    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="kernel32.dll" SIZE="986112" CHECKSUM="0x359DA0B2" BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.3541" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.3541" PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.3541" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Windows NT BASE API Client DLL" COMPANY_NAME="Microsoft Corporation" PRODUCT_NAME="Microsoft® Windows® Operating System" FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.3541 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.090321-1320)" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="kernel32" INTERNAL_NAME="kernel32" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0xFEAFF" LINKER_VERSION="0x50001" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.3541" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.3541" LINK_DATE="03/21/2009 14:18:57" UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/21/2009 14:18:57" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
</EXE>
</DATABASE>

Crashes on startup

Reply #1 – March 27, 2010, 08:30:01 am

Quote from: AEO – on March 27, 2010, 03:17:19 am

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?>
<DATABASE>
<EXE NAME="Simutrans-Experimental.exe" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_PRIVACY">
    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="bzip2.dll" SIZE="63488" CHECKSUM="0x8D2BE7AF" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x1D1C6" LINKER_VERSION="0x10000" LINK_DATE="07/24/2009 10:20:30" UPTO_LINK_DATE="07/24/2009 10:20:30" />
    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="Simutrans-Experimental-SDL.exe" SIZE="2278400" CHECKSUM="0x15C11BFA" BIN_FILE_VERSION="102.3.7.2" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="102.3.7.2" PRODUCT_VERSION="102.3 Experimental 7.2" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Simutrans-Experimental" COMPANY_NAME="Simutrans Team" PRODUCT_NAME="Simutrans-Experimental" FILE_VERSION="102.3 Experimental 7.2" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="simutrans-experimental.exe" INTERNAL_NAME="simutrans-experimental" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Hj. Malthaner '97-'04 Simutrans Team '05-09 (Artistic Licence)" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x0" VERFILETYPE="0x0" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x237961" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="102.3.7.2" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="102.3.7.2" LINK_DATE="03/26/2010 13:26:28" UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/26/2010 13:26:28" />
    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="Simutrans-Experimental.exe" SIZE="2279936" CHECKSUM="0x853AEC31" BIN_FILE_VERSION="102.3.7.2" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="102.3.7.2" PRODUCT_VERSION="102.3 Experimental 7.2" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Simutrans-Experimental" COMPANY_NAME="Simutrans Team" PRODUCT_NAME="Simutrans-Experimental" FILE_VERSION="102.3 Experimental 7.2" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="simutrans-experimental.exe" INTERNAL_NAME="simutrans-experimental" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Hj. Malthaner '97-'04 Simutrans Team '05-09 (Artistic Licence)" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x0" VERFILETYPE="0x0" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x237A51" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="102.3.7.2" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="102.3.7.2" LINK_DATE="03/26/2010 13:06:49" UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/26/2010 13:06:49" />
    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="simutrans.exe" SIZE="1351680" CHECKSUM="0x2F0021E3" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x14CA7A" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="12/07/2009 22:24:22" UPTO_LINK_DATE="12/07/2009 22:24:22" />
</EXE>
<EXE NAME="kernel32.dll" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_THISFILEONLY">
    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="kernel32.dll" SIZE="986112" CHECKSUM="0x359DA0B2" BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.3541" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.3541" PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.3541" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Windows NT BASE API Client DLL" COMPANY_NAME="Microsoft Corporation" PRODUCT_NAME="Microsoft® Windows® Operating System" FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.3541 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.090321-1320)" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="kernel32" INTERNAL_NAME="kernel32" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0xFEAFF" LINKER_VERSION="0x50001" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.3541" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.3541" LINK_DATE="03/21/2009 14:18:57" UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/21/2009 14:18:57" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
</EXE>
</DATABASE>

I am having the same problems on Windows Vista Basic home edition. It crashes when trying to start it up.

W

Crashes on startup

Reply #2 – March 27, 2010, 08:41:36 am

AEO - where does that log file come from?

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Reply #3 – March 27, 2010, 09:15:19 am

I think bzip2.dll is not installed

Crashes on startup

Reply #4 – March 27, 2010, 09:51:26 am

It is installed with me :/

W

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Reply #5 – March 28, 2010, 12:18:38 am

@james

it's the built-in error logger in winXP.
usually you have to hunt for it in temp files.

and bzip2.dll is in there.

Crashes on startup

Reply #6 – March 28, 2010, 11:26:03 am

Hi James,

I'm sorry to also have to report a similar issue (formerly known as a Dr Watson) in two scenario's.

1) With Simutrans 102.2.2 and Simutrans-Ex 7.2, using the Simutrans-Ex supplied Simuconf.tab, it triggers a Windows XP error and closes right at the start. However, this does not reproduce with the Simuconf.tab supplied with Simutrans Standard 102.2.2.

2) With Simutrans 102.2.2, Simutrans-Ex 7.2 and Pak.Britain 0.5, at the start of a new map, using the Simuconf.tab of Simutrans Standard 102.2.2, but regardless of which Simuconf.tab is put in Pak128.Britain-Ex\Config. However, this does not happen with Pak.Britain 0.4.

I'm sorry I can't be more specific at this time. If you'd like some more specific information, please instruct me to get it for you and I'll see what I can do.

Re: Crashes on startup

Reply #7 – March 28, 2010, 05:43:52 pm

Thank you everyone for your feedback. May I ask that any bug reports in future be posted in their own thread - it is much easier to find them there.

As to this particular issue - it is not one that I can readily reproduce. Check that you have bzip.dll in the same directory as simutrans.exe, make sure that you have the MSVC++ redistributable file installed, and, if that fails, try deleting settinges-experimental.xml in the /My Documents/Simutrans folder.

Please let me know whether that works for you - thank you again for the report!

Re: Crashes on startup

Reply #8 – March 28, 2010, 05:50:59 pm

okay, deleting settings-experimental.xml solved the crash on startup issue for me.
thanks james.

Re: Crashes on startup

Reply #9 – March 28, 2010, 07:47:43 pm

Hi James,

bzip.dll made no difference to me. Also, there was no previous settings-experimental for me as I made a clean install (using the Online Installer for Simutrans 102.2.2). I may have missed something about the MSVC++ redistributable file, but by now I got things to work.

I also have an update on the reproduction scenario with the Pak.Britain-Ex. It seems the trouble I have is only with the BritIndustry.pak file. If I use that file (only) from Pak.Britain-Ex 0.4, and all other files from 0.5, everything works fine (of course if I only use Simuconf.tab from my earlier Simutrans-Ex installation of 7.1.

If you could tell me the differences (new settings) in Simuconf.tab between 7.1 and 7.2, I may be able to isolate the precise setting that causes the problem in my reproduction scenario for that one.

Re: Crashes on startup

Reply #10 – March 28, 2010, 08:20:18 pm

DoR,

thank you for your further feedback. I'm afraid that I can't remember now what the changes were to simuconf.tab between 7.1 and 7.2. The problem with the industries is a load/save problem - I think that Bernd is looking into that.

Thank you very much for your report!

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Reply #11 – March 29, 2010, 10:10:31 am

Hi James,
Thanks for repairing the link for downing Makeobj.exe.
Please give that exe a name including a versionnumber like MakeobjEx87 (like prissy does)

I also downed Exp7.2 (2024 kB) and Pak128.Britain-Ex.zip (30.602 kB)
Extracted them both and put them in a folder.
Thr result is NOT running.
I have the feeling of missing something.
Exp7.2 gives only 4 files: bzip2.dll, how to get, and 2 exe-files.
Pak128 gives 4 folders (config,doc,sound,text), 27 .pak-files, 1 compat.tab and 1 demo.sve

Compared to Exp6.6 I miss in the top-folder: maps, text and font.

What do I have to do? Copy them from Exp6.6?
AvG

Edit: I copied the 4 folders form 6.6 into 7.2. Now the game is starting but crashes after using the start-button.

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Reply #12 – March 29, 2010, 08:13:09 pm

AvG,

you will also need the configuration files, which can be downloaded us (site down, do not visit) ]/simutrans-experimental-config.zip]here (the link is on the "How to get Simutrans-Experimental" page). Do let me know how you get along!

Re: Crashes on startup

Reply #13 – March 30, 2010, 06:39:11 am

the linked configuration files do not solve the crash on create new map or load save game.
only seems to happen with pak BR05 experimental.

does not crash when starting a new map in pak BR04 ex, but does crash with loading a save game. This load crash is giving a similar error messages to what neroden has reported in "and another crash bug...." thread.

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Reply #14 – April 02, 2010, 02:01:17 pm

AEO,

thank you very much for your report, and apologies that it is still not working for you. I am currently away for a few days, and not able to look at the code, but I suspect that the problem is related to the factory fields issue that has been reported elsewhere. I shall be working on producing an updated version (7.3) with just bug fixes to 7.2, which I shall release when I can. Thank you again for your reports, and apologies that you have had trouble.

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Reply #15 – April 06, 2010, 07:54:30 pm

Update: Thank you everyone for your patience. There seem to be several different issues here. Firstly, there are some problems with the settings-experimental.xml configuration files: Bernd Gabriel is kindly looking into that: see here for details. Secondly, the problem that is specific to Pak128.Britain-Ex 0.5 is caused by the fact that that pakset was compiled with the latest version of Makeobj-Experimental, which has a bug (which I have not yet managed to trace or fix, but am working on it), which means that fields are not properly encoded: see here for details. AvG's problem, I think, has been solved (lack of certain things in configuration files), and I plan to take up the suggestion made in another thread and bundle those with the configuration files.

Thank you all for your patience!

Re: Crashes on startup

Reply #16 – April 10, 2010, 07:49:42 pm

Hopefully, this issue has been fixed with Simutrans-Experimental 7.3 - the latest release. Thank you everyone for your patience!